I still have not figured out who was damaged by this rule change.
There is little collaboration between the spot providers. I don't know
if Lee, VE7CC is subbed to this group or not but he could detail how CC
clusters such as his and w0mu-1 work. There is CC cluster, AR Cluster
DX summit and more. All the servers are run independently. As a
cluster server owner I have some flexibility on what spots I accept
etc. But most of the major parts are controlled by the software/developer.
I have no problem with servers that will allow or disallow self
spotting. That should be the decision of the owners of the software and
server owners.
I recall when I had my skimmer going that the skimmer program would not
pass what it considered self spots. If my skimmer was called w0mu-# it
would not pass spot decoded for W0MU. At the time self spotting was not
legal and some people considered a skimmer located within the circle and
sending spots to either the RBN or a cluster could be considered self
spotting.
W0MU
On 3/11/2024 10:26 AM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
What I found out last year is that while the ARRL decided it was okay to self
spot, they never coordinated with the telnet clusters that this would be okay.
So while it may be in the rules to self spot, depending on what you do and how
you do it, the world may not see that you are doing so. What I found was:
* If you spot with DX Summit using the web form, almost none of the
clusters forward the spot. So only DX Summit users see it. Which is a small
percentage of active contesters.
* If you sign on to some clusters, they don't allow self spotting. So it will
accept the spot but not publicize it. Apparently they "never got the memo"
from ARRL.
* If you spot either yourself or another person, within some varying
amount of time on the same frequency, the additional spots are ignored. You
have to change frequency by about 1khz for it to go around that rule.
The cluster community should really state what is published spots rules are so
there isn't so much confusion.
Ed N1UR
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