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Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spotting

To: Paul Bourque <pbourque@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spotting
From: kq2m@kq2m.com
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:47:16 -0500
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Hi Paul,

Not to change the subject but, if "All required elements of a
contact must be exchanged via amateur radio.", then how do contacts
made via remote qualify? Is the internet considered to be Amateur Radio?

It seems to me that contacts made via remote - which requires the use of NON-Amateur Radio technology as a conduit for making those qso's - should be in a separate category because those NON-Amateur Radio means are essential to making those qso's.


Bob, KQ2M



On 2024-03-15 13:24, Paul Bourque wrote:
HI Chris,

I've been over these looking for inconsistencies, and yes, this is
inconsistent with self spotting being allowed. The word soliciting should
be removed from the language there.

The text of PROH 3. across all HF based ARRL contests should read:


PROH.3. Arranging and confirmation of any contacts during or after the
contest by use of any non-amateur radio means. All required elements of a
contact must be exchanged via amateur radio.


This will be standardized across al lHF based contest rules within the next
several days.


73,

-Paul Bourque N1SFE

ARRL Contest Program Manager

Please direct replies to n1sfe@ARRL.ORG




On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 12:46 AM Christopher Paulin <chris@paulinslate.com>
wrote:

The ARRL contest committee made a very poor decision that was not well
thought out by allowing self-spotting in their contests. The 2023 ARRL 10m
contest rules read verbatim:



"PROH.3. Arranging, soliciting, or confirming any contacts during or after
the contest by use of any non-

amateur radio means. All required elements of a contact must be exchanged
via amateur radio."



How is a station that is using the internet to self-spot not in violation
of
Prohibited Conduct in that contest?  Yet self-spotting was apparently
allowed by the ARRL, even for "unassisted" stations! There are a myriad of other problems with the way those rules are written, which I've already
commented on.



The ARRL DX 2024 rules have apparently been rewritten to try to rectify
some
of these blatant conflicts, but the end result is the same: self-spotting
in contests should be prohibited.



Chris N8ACP

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