Hmmmm... Did I mention you? Ever hear the phrase "a guilty conscience
needs no accuser" ?
73, Gerry
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:47 PM, <k4gun@comcast.net> wrote:
> Wait a second! That's not the case. Not at all. There are some of us who
> would like to see further changes and have made respectful and cogent
> arguments as to why we feel that way. There's no bickering and finger
> pointing. Its an honest effort to improve the contest that we all seem to
> rather enjoy. Why is that such a problem?
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> K4GUN/R
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@yahoo.com>
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com, "Gerry Hull" <gerry@w1ve.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:26:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] QST_ June contest write up
>
> I couldn't agree more. The way I see it, the complainers should have 2
> main options:
>
> 1. Make up their own contest and set the rules however they want them.
> 2. Get on the VUAC committee themselves and then change the rules.
>
> It seems that most of the complaining comes of the sort: "KA1XYZ won the
> contest and I should have instead."
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Gerry Hull <gerry@w1ve.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Gerry Hull <gerry@w1ve.com>
> > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] QST_ June contest write up
> > To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> > Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 1:17 PM
> > <flack jacket on>
> >
> > I've participated in all the major VHF non-winter
> > contests for almost 30
> > years now. Before grid squares. After grid squares.
> > Before the new rover
> > rules. After the new rover rules.
> >
> > The theme among complainers about winners is "those
> > winners must be
> > cheating".
> >
> > Well, no sir, time and time again it's been proven they
> > have not been
> > cheating. No matter who it is, no matter what they are
> > doing.
> >
> > "Well, they push the rules to the LIMIT"
> >
> > Isn't this a COMPETITION?
> >
> > "They do the same, mundane stuff every year."
> >
> > "They do it on high microwaves" (Um, more
> > points-per-Q?)
> >
> > "They do it with custom gear and frequencies"
> >
> > "They only work their buddies!"
> >
> > "They buy all their gear -- they are buying the
> > contest!"
> >
> > ALL within the rules.
> >
> > If you look at the rules over the past 30 years, once
> > enough people
> > bellyache about the same winners, and their is enough
> > political pressure,
> > the rules get changed... And, those same top operators
> > and competitors
> > adapt And they win under the new rules.
> >
> > The League and the CAC has done a great job in adapting the
> > rules to make
> > VHF contesting interesting for everybody.
> >
> > If you're in the game to only WIN, you going to
> > disappoint yourself a good
> > portion of the time. I've luckily participated with a
> > group who
> > have won quite a few times -- but also have had our butts
> > whipped by
> > others. As the rules change, adoptions are made.
> >
> > I don't rove. I know a lot of people that do. I come
> > from an unlimited
> > multiop perspective.
> >
> > Ask K8GP if building and testing all the gear, driving a
> > long way, setting
> > up and operating in sometimes very harsh conditions is
> > always fun? I bet
> > they think so -- maybe not always -- but they come back
> > (almost) every
> > year. They are skilled operators with great tactical
> > strategy and do very
> > well.
> >
> > Ask my friends as W2SZ if maintaining gear over 30 years or
> > putting up 10+
> > guyed towers on a mountain top (sometimes in very bad
> > weather) twice a year
> > or driving 1000s of non-contest miles scouting excellent
> > locations for DX
> > uWave, or rounding up enough people to "make" it
> > happen. At times, it's
> > REALLY HARD. Doing something difficult, and working as a
> > team, pays off.
> > Even when we loose,
> > we are motivated to keep going. If the rules change, we
> > adopt.
> >
> > Ask K1WHS and his team why he keeps plugging at it (and
> > catching us all
> > FAST!). Dave's built an incredible station over the
> > years -- and it's not
> > always about winning.
> >
> > If some rovers have a strategy of only working their
> > friends -- perhaps it's
> > because their friends have a winning strategy. Rather
> > than complaining
> > and spreading innuendo in a public forum -- why not embrace
> > them and find
> > out how you might participate in that winning strategy
> > also. You can
> > learn much from winners. If you perceive a real issue
> > with the rules,
> > contact your CAC member -- don't knock someone who has
> > used a strategy which
> > maximizes score based on the fules.
> >
> > </flack jacket on>
> >
> > I AM in favor of public logs, as I believe that MANY can
> > learn from the
> > techniques of others. I doubt you'll find any
> > cheaters in public logs.
> >
> > These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my VHF
> > Contesting buddies
> > at W2SZ FN32jp
> >
> > 73, Gerry W1VE
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