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Re: Topband: https://clublog.org/logsearch/CB0ZA

To: Wes Stewart <n7ws@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: https://clublog.org/logsearch/CB0ZA
From: WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:16:09 -0500
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
The filters dont “exclude” callers, they do however sort them….either by signal 
strength, mileage ( based on grid square) , maybe continent…..
Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 19, 2024, at 5:11 PM, Wes Stewart via Topband <topband@contesting.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  It is unreasonable to assume all FT8 QSOs are with robots, however, many 
> are.  Technically, some "I" (my computer) makes are made with me not in 
> attendance.  When I can disable transmit and walk out to the kitchen to get 
> another beer and come back to see that my software has tuned my radio to the 
> Fox frequency and called him to complete the QSO, I think that's a "robot."
> And that is exactly why I do not submit WSJT contacts for DXCC credit.  If 
> others want to, that's between them and their ethics.  Why do I make the 
> contacts then? you may ask. Because one of my DX clubs has an internal 
> competition where certain expeditions are designated as targets for "band 
> slot Bingo", where we compete for the greatest number of slots worked.  You 
> can't win if you don't play.
> As to efficiency, I think FT8 wastes a lot of time.  Other modes, including 
> RTTY, are simply faster, although they require more operator skill on both 
> ends.  F/H is particularly bad in this regard.  You can call and call and 
> might actually be in the queue but not know it until you go to the kitchen 
> for that beer and come back and see that "you" made the contact.
> Another particularly distasteful thing about FT8 is that the DX can set 
> filters to exclude certain callers based on signal strength, distance, 
> country, etc. and the callers never know it.  I know there will be vehement 
> denial of this but I know it happens.
> WSJT will never replace RTTY.
> 
>    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 12:56:59 PM MST, Jim Brown 
> <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:  
> 
>> On 2/19/2024 7:27 AM, Saulius Zalnerauskas wrote:
>> Look's like this "Sherlock Holmes" not understand what CB0ZA Robot doing.
> 
> It is unreasonable to assume that all FT8 QSOs are with robots. I know
> some of the very experienced CW ops who run FT8 on expeditions. WSJT-X
> software makes the mode quite time-efficient for expeditions. It's a
> replacement for RTTY, not CW.  
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