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Re: Topband: https://clublog.org/logsearch/CB0ZA

To: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>, Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: https://clublog.org/logsearch/CB0ZA
From: Wes Stewart via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Wes Stewart <n7ws@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 21:51:22 +0000 (UTC)
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 It is unreasonable to assume all FT8 QSOs are with robots, however, many are.  
Technically, some "I" (my computer) makes are made with me not in attendance.  
When I can disable transmit and walk out to the kitchen to get another beer and 
come back to see that my software has tuned my radio to the Fox frequency and 
called him to complete the QSO, I think that's a "robot."
And that is exactly why I do not submit WSJT contacts for DXCC credit.  If 
others want to, that's between them and their ethics.  Why do I make the 
contacts then? you may ask. Because one of my DX clubs has an internal 
competition where certain expeditions are designated as targets for "band slot 
Bingo", where we compete for the greatest number of slots worked.  You can't 
win if you don't play.
As to efficiency, I think FT8 wastes a lot of time.  Other modes, including 
RTTY, are simply faster, although they require more operator skill on both 
ends.  F/H is particularly bad in this regard.  You can call and call and might 
actually be in the queue but not know it until you go to the kitchen for that 
beer and come back and see that "you" made the contact.
Another particularly distasteful thing about FT8 is that the DX can set filters 
to exclude certain callers based on signal strength, distance, country, etc. 
and the callers never know it.  I know there will be vehement denial of this 
but I know it happens.
WSJT will never replace RTTY.

    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 12:56:59 PM MST, Jim Brown 
<jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:  
 
 On 2/19/2024 7:27 AM, Saulius Zalnerauskas wrote:
> Look's like this "Sherlock Holmes" not understand what CB0ZA Robot doing.

It is unreasonable to assume that all FT8 QSOs are with robots. I know 
some of the very experienced CW ops who run FT8 on expeditions. WSJT-X 
software makes the mode quite time-efficient for expeditions. It's a 
replacement for RTTY, not CW.  
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