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Re: Topband: https://clublog.org/logsearch/CB0ZA

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Subject: Re: Topband: https://clublog.org/logsearch/CB0ZA
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:34:16 -0500
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On 2/19/2024 4:51 PM, Wes Stewart via Topband wrote:

F/H is particularly bad in this regard. You can call and call and might actually be in the queue but not know it until you go to the kitchen for that beer and come back and see that "you" made the
contact.
If you do not want your computer responding to delayed queue entries
while you are in the kitchen getting a beer, simply clear the DX Call
box!  Just like you told the computer to call the station, you can
tell it not to reply when you're not there.

RTFM!

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/19/2024 4:51 PM, Wes Stewart via Topband wrote:
  It is unreasonable to assume all FT8 QSOs are with robots, however, many are.  Technically, some 
"I" (my computer) makes are made with me not in attendance.  When I can disable transmit and 
walk out to the kitchen to get another beer and come back to see that my software has tuned my radio to the 
Fox frequency and called him to complete the QSO, I think that's a "robot."
And that is exactly why I do not submit WSJT contacts for DXCC credit.  If others want to, that's 
between them and their ethics.  Why do I make the contacts then? you may ask. Because one of my DX 
clubs has an internal competition where certain expeditions are designated as targets for "band 
slot Bingo", where we compete for the greatest number of slots worked.  You can't win if you 
don't play.
As to efficiency, I think FT8 wastes a lot of time.  Other modes, including RTTY, are simply 
faster, although they require more operator skill on both ends.  F/H is particularly bad in this 
regard.  You can call and call and might actually be in the queue but not know it until you go to 
the kitchen for that beer and come back and see that "you" made the contact.
Another particularly distasteful thing about FT8 is that the DX can set filters to 
exclude certain callers based on signal strength, distance, country, etc. and the 
callers never know it.  I know there will be vehement denial of this but I know 
it happens.
WSJT will never replace RTTY.

     On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 12:56:59 PM MST, Jim Brown 
<jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:



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