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Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX

To: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
From: Jack Brindle via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@me.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 19:38:12 -0600
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Oui, C’est vrai!

73,
Jack, W6FB
La Louisiane


> On Feb 3, 2024, at 9:55 AM, Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Un chasseur, sachant chasser sans son chien, sait chasser.
> 
> 
> 73, de Hans, KØHB
> “Just a Boy and his Radio”™
> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on 
> behalf of Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 9:18 PM
> To: john@kk9a.com <john@kk9a.com>; cq-contest@contesting.com 
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
> 
> During the N1W operation over the past month, we could call CQ on CW and not 
> get much action.  When we spotted ourselves the crowd immediately showed up.  
> The obvious conclusion is that most people are not watching RBN.  Could be a 
> variety of reasons for this.
> 
> Contesters are more aware of RBN and are willing to set their filters and 
> software to accommodate.
> 
> Randy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=outlook.com@contesting.com> On 
> Behalf Of john@kk9a.com
> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 9:46 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
> 
> Is that true Randy, most casual DXers are not seeing skimmer spots?  W3LPL 
> automatically posts some of less common DX skimmer spots on the cluster but
> the rest of the skimmer spots go unnoticed?   If that is correct, then more
> stations should be self-spotting on RTTY and CW when allowed.  I have never 
> self-spotted on RTTY or CW.
> 
> The spotting network has existed since I believe the 80's and prior to that 
> rarer DX stations were announced on 2m repeaters so tuning for DX stations 
> has not been necessary for a long time. Of course it is much easier now to 
> click and work, maybe so easy that some stations don't feel the need to 
> regularly identify.  Without spotting we would all probably be making a lot 
> less QSOs so the cluster is adding to everyone's fun, regardless of category. 
>  Fortunately you can still operate unassisted (un-unlimited) in most major 
> contests and have the thrill of finding that new multiplier or band opening 
> however operating assisted (unlimited) can also be fun.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Randy Thompson k5zd wrote:
> 
> The flaw in this argument is that many (most?) hams don't subscribe to RBN 
> spots.  Self spotting on CW actually helps reach another layer or two of 
> casual ops and DXers in a contest.  So arguing that using it on phone is just 
> an analog for RBN is not quite true.
> 
> Self spotting is another form of calling CQ using the Internet instead of 
> radio.
> 
> It does seem the hobby has evolved to the point where making a contact by any 
> means is more fun/important than using tuning skills.  Disappointing, but it 
> is what it is. On we go into the future.
> 
> Randy K5ZD
> 
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