VE7CC the Author of CC Cluster confirmed that RBN spots are NOT stored
for lookup. It makes sense as on some contest weekends a cluster can
see 10m, MILLION spots over the weekend. Other Clusters may act
differently.
73
W0MU
On 2/4/2024 10:28 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
That is very curious. My cluster w0mu.net w0mu-1 CC cluster
includes RBN Spots as do most of the CC clusters that I know of. There
is a way to turn them off. Many logging programs and CC User allow
the users some fairly extensive filtering. I checked the RBN and N1W
was being heard and spotted. That filtering should block or allow
regular or rbn spots though.
When I did a lookup of N1W on my cluster sh/dx N1W 1000 (1000 spots)
No RBN spots were shown. I don't seem to be able to lookup any RBN
spots, so it is possible that VE7CC does not save rbn spots due to the
size of the files that could be created. I will contact Lee and ask.
W0MU
On 2/2/2024 8:18 PM, Randy Thompson wrote:
During the N1W operation over the past month, we could call CQ on CW
and not get much action. When we spotted ourselves the crowd
immediately showed up. The obvious conclusion is that most people
are not watching RBN. Could be a variety of reasons for this.
Contesters are more aware of RBN and are willing to set their filters
and software to accommodate.
Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=outlook.com@contesting.com>
On Behalf Of john@kk9a.com
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 9:46 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
Is that true Randy, most casual DXers are not seeing skimmer spots?
W3LPL automatically posts some of less common DX skimmer spots on the
cluster but
the rest of the skimmer spots go unnoticed? If that is correct,
then more
stations should be self-spotting on RTTY and CW when allowed. I have
never self-spotted on RTTY or CW.
The spotting network has existed since I believe the 80's and prior
to that rarer DX stations were announced on 2m repeaters so tuning
for DX stations has not been necessary for a long time. Of course it
is much easier now to click and work, maybe so easy that some
stations don't feel the need to regularly identify. Without spotting
we would all probably be making a lot less QSOs so the cluster is
adding to everyone's fun, regardless of category. Fortunately you
can still operate unassisted (un-unlimited) in most major contests
and have the thrill of finding that new multiplier or band opening
however operating assisted (unlimited) can also be fun.
John KK9A
Randy Thompson k5zd wrote:
The flaw in this argument is that many (most?) hams don't subscribe
to RBN spots. Self spotting on CW actually helps reach another layer
or two of casual ops and DXers in a contest. So arguing that using
it on phone is just an analog for RBN is not quite true.
Self spotting is another form of calling CQ using the Internet
instead of radio.
It does seem the hobby has evolved to the point where making a
contact by any means is more fun/important than using tuning skills.
Disappointing, but it is what it is. On we go into the future.
Randy K5ZD
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