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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

To: Denis Pochuev K7GK <k7gk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
From: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 22:18:42 -0500
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You know what this will also do - if I have the ability to self spot.  If I
want a frequency, I'm just going to find somebody who isn't that out, spot
myself, and create an instant pileup.  By spotting myself, I've now been
able to grab that frequency courtesy of the pileup.

Not saying I personally would do this, but someone absolutely will.

73 Rich NN3W


On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 6:26 PM Denis Pochuev K7GK <k7gk@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >It is likely to have the most impact on SSB to produce spotting equal to
> what the RBN does for CW and RTTY.
>
> I don't think this is quite correct. Every participant in CW/RTTY contests
> benefits from RBN spots. In phone contests only those who are allowed to
> self-spot will benefit. In my reading of the new rules it's only the
> operators in Unlimited and Multi-Op categories. This rule change advances
> the inequities between assisted and un-assisted categories and is likely to
> speed up the demise of the latter.
>
> 73, Denis - K7GK
>
> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k7gk=hotmail.com@contesting.com> on
> behalf of Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 4:23 AM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
>
> From the ARRL Contest Update today:
>
> "New Rules in effect for all ARRL HF Contests in June
> Starting with the ARRL International Digital Contest, in all categories
> that allow assistance (Unlimited), the use of online and other non-amateur
> radio platforms including but not limited to social media, live video
> streaming, and internet chat rooms will be allowed. In all Unlimited and
> Multioperator categories, the prohibition of self-spotting, and asking
> another station to spot you, will also be removed."
>
> Wow.  It was one thing for the VHF contests to allow use of chat rooms and
> telephone calls, now this is extended to all HF contests. It should be
> interesting to see what unintended consequences result from allowing
> multi-ops and assisted competitors to spot themselves. You could spot
> yourself with every CQ if you wanted to. Or you can call people on the
> phone and ask them to get on the air. Or send out email reminders to work
> you during the contest.
>
> It is likely to have the most impact on SSB to produce spotting equal to
> what the RBN does for CW and RTTY.
>
> For an organization that has always been so timid and conservative on rule
> changes, the ARRL seems to have sprung this one without much consultation
> with the contest community.  I assume it is in reaction to the W2RE
> incident several years ago in ARRL DX where he used live streaming on
> Facebook during the contest.
>
>
> Randy K5ZD
>
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