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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

To: Jamie WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
From: Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 07:51:50 -0700
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The guys who will be impacted the most are the serious, unassisted, SSB
contesters. They need the casual S&P guys to find them. But with self
spotting, the casual guys will just click on the (self) spots and never
work the unspotted, unassisted folks.

I rarely do SSB contests now. This is just another nail in that coffin for
me.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 6:48 AM Jamie WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:

> that makes no sense Ed.....if you call CQ, you will get spotted (in CW
> and RTTY) and most serious ops will call you....if you call CQ, you will
> be one of the "thousands of spots"....
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Ed K1EP" <k1ep.list@gmail.com>
> To: "John Geiger" <af5cc2@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Mike VE9AA ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>; "CQ Contest"
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: 2/17/2022 8:05:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
>
> >You will have to S&P in the non-assisted category, as all the assisted ops
> >will be chasing all the thousands of spots and not turning the knob to
> find
> >you.
> >
> >reply to: K1EP@arrl.net
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 16, 2022, 15:36 John Geiger <af5cc2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  Just don't enter the assisted category and it is business as usual.
> >>
> >>  On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:36 AM Mike VE9AA ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca <
> >>ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>  > So to be competitive I now have to employ: "..use of online and other
> >>  > non-amateur radio
> >>  > platforms including but not limited to social media, live video
> >>  > streaming, and
> >>  > internet chat rooms ..." ?
> >>  >
> >>  > This is not radio anymore.  I *DO* like the idea of especially QRP &
> LP
> >>  > SSB and antenna or location constrained ops to have the ability to
> self
> >>  > spot...Say, once every 10minutes or something, but this goes waaaaay
> >>  > beyond this and makes it a popularity and social media experiment.
> >>  > (the RBN already does this automatically for CW and RTTY)
> >>  >
> >>  > Shame.
> >>  >
> >>  > Mike VE9AA
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