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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
From: K8MR via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: jimk8mr@aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 00:31:01 +0000 (UTC)
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Perhaps we can allow only self spotting. I.e., no CQing. Just spot yourself 
with your frequency, and let somebody who sees your call spotted call you on 
that frequency. You may ID once at the end of that QSO, and if somebody else 
calls you, you're free to work them. But no other use of amateur radio on the 
QSO frequency to solicit contacts.
Unassisted entries would still be allowed to CQ.


73  -  Jim  K8MR


-----Original Message-----
From: MARK BAILEY <kd4d@comcast.net>
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2022 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

Hi Randy:

Allowing self-spotting might not have had much of an impact.  Allowing chat 
rooms and other non-amateur radio platforms will have a huge impact.  
Competitive assisted single operators and Multi-ops will have social media 
coordinators.  Unless a very carefully crafted rule is written, Single Operator 
Assisted operators can have additional people helping with social media.

Live streaming offers the ability to confirm QSOs in real-time.  The 
video/audio feeds will quickly be augmented by machine-readable data for that 
confirmation - and real-time QSLing!  This effectively eliminates the rules 
against confirming QSOs during contests by non-amateur radio means.

Many QSOs will now be arranged via social media or dedicated apps.  It will be 
interesting to see if stations still need to hold run frequencies in a few 
years when the scheduling apps can just access their current frequency in 
real-time and it becomes sort of like a sprint.  I hope so - otherwise, the 
single operators won't even be able to work the serious assisted/multi-op 
stations.

73,

Mark, KD4D

> On 02/16/2022 7:23 AM Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> From the ARRL Contest Update today:
> 
> "New Rules in effect for all ARRL HF Contests in June
> Starting with the ARRL International Digital Contest, in all categories that 
> allow assistance (Unlimited), the use of online and other non-amateur radio 
> platforms including but not limited to social media, live video streaming, 
> and internet chat rooms will be allowed. In all Unlimited and Multioperator 
> categories, the prohibition of self-spotting, and asking another station to 
> spot you, will also be removed."
> 
> Wow.  It was one thing for the VHF contests to allow use of chat rooms and 
> telephone calls, now this is extended to all HF contests. It should be 
> interesting to see what unintended consequences result from allowing 
> multi-ops and assisted competitors to spot themselves. You could spot 
> yourself with every CQ if you wanted to. Or you can call people on the phone 
> and ask them to get on the air. Or send out email reminders to work you 
> during the contest.
> 
> It is likely to have the most impact on SSB to produce spotting equal to what 
> the RBN does for CW and RTTY.
> 
> For an organization that has always been so timid and conservative on rule 
> changes, the ARRL seems to have sprung this one without much consultation 
> with the contest community.  I assume it is in reaction to the W2RE incident 
> several years ago in ARRL DX where he used live streaming on Facebook during 
> the contest.
> 
> 
> Randy K5ZD
> 
>
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