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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

To: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
From: Sterling Mann <kawfey@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:18:17 -0600
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
I could see that being a hackathon now, and a competitive computing contest
in the 2030s, but by the time that's really a thing, I don't think many on
this list will mind.

"Traditional" ham radio contesting is going nowhere anytime soon, but it's
also getting us nowhere if we don't evolve.

-Sterling


On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:14 PM Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net> wrote:

> Yes let's take another step further.
>
> The contest station will be operator free. An AI computer will be reading
> and transmitting the contacts, turning the antennas, selecting the
> frequency, even turning the power on at beginning and off at the end. So
> you
> know where this rule change is heading.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+ve5ra=sasktel.net@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Sterling Mann
> Sent: February-16-22 3:43 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
>
> Let's take it a step further...
>
> * epic sports intro music plays *
>
> And we are live at the K3LR super station, here on ESPN FiveNine - Your
> HOME for RadioSport, where everybody is Five and Nine. We're just minutes
> away from kicking off 2032's Worldwide DX Slam, and we already have 9 -
> countem, NINE - ops on frequency already warming up the bands. I think we
> got a big game ahead, last year's rival is putting up a bigger fight - K9CT
> just put up 3 new towers on their farm, but their ops are sitting pretty
> from the comfort of their laz-e-boys and couches tied in over Starlink, so
> it's the perfect storm, butting the Butts in Chairs with the Work from
> Homers against each other. Tim, what are we gonna be seeing today?
>
> Well Fred, this is a young crop of contesters, so you'll be they'll be up
> all night working well into Japan and Australia on 160m with that new
> OctaVert they've been playin with, and just checked last night, looks like
> we got 37,000 VK and JA listed on the regs tonight so it'll be like
> shooting fish in a barrel in the graveyard shift assuming they can keep
> their rates up and their frequencies busy. That'll be really key, coming
> into the sunspot minimums, as the high bands just aren't going to keep it
> up despite HAARP-II cooking the ionosphere last week for the
> Lets-Make-10m-work-again contest. Man you could feel the heat, and you can
> feel it here too. We also expect big things out of the rookie, Maci
> Maxwell. She has just been blowing up the scoreboards on nightly sprints
> but now she's eating at the big kids table, so pressure's on but I think
> she's got it in the bag - we'll really see her shine on the greyline. And
> can't forget about that wild metamaterial iono-georesonant phased array at
> 4O3A causing a storm in the radiosport meta, that is going to be a thorn in
> everyone's side. Definitely going to be a big thing to keep an eye on in
> the top five, and certainly be a hard battle for first place unlimited, but
> you will see it here on ESPN FiveNine. Back to you Fred.
>
> Thanks Tim. For those playing at home, it's time to put on those FlexVR
> headsets for a new immersive experience brought to you by DX Engineering -
> bringing the DX to the METAVERSE - it's DXaVERSE. Watch real-time stats and
> scores, hear stations in full 360 audio with the all new NeuralDSP audio
> engine, and SEE the DX coming from the skies so you always know where to
> spin the dial and spin your beam to always be on top.
>
> ***
>
> I long for the day that RadioSportscaster is an actual job, but I think
> we've got a long way to go :-P
>
> -Sterling N0SSC
>
> Hi Randy:
> >
> > Allowing self-spotting might not have had much of an impact.  Allowing
> chat rooms and other non-amateur radio platforms will have a huge impact.
> Competitive assisted single operators and Multi-ops will have social media
> coordinators.  Unless a very carefully crafted rule is written, Single
> Operator Assisted operators can have additional people helping with social
> media.
> >
> > Live streaming offers the ability to confirm QSOs in real-time.  The
> video/audio feeds will quickly be augmented by machine-readable data for
> that confirmation - and real-time QSLing!  This effectively eliminates the
> rules against confirming QSOs during contests by non-amateur radio means.
> >
> > Many QSOs will now be arranged via social media or dedicated apps.  It
> will be interesting to see if stations still need to hold run frequencies
> in
> a few years when the scheduling apps can just access their current
> frequency
> in real-time and it becomes sort of like a sprint.  I hope so - otherwise,
> the single operators won't even be able to work the serious
> assisted/multi-op stations.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mark, KD4D
> >
> > >* On 02/16/2022 7:23 AM Randy Thompson <k5zd at outlook.com
> <http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>> wrote:
> > *> >  >* From the ARRL Contest Update today:
> > *> >* "New Rules in effect for all ARRL HF Contests in June
> > *>* Starting with the ARRL International Digital Contest, in all
> categories that allow assistance (Unlimited), the use of online and other
> non-amateur radio platforms including but not limited to social media, live
> video streaming, and internet chat rooms will be allowed. In all Unlimited
> and Multioperator categories, the prohibition of self-spotting, and asking
> another station to spot you, will also be removed."
> > *> >* Wow.  It was one thing for the VHF contests to allow use of chat
> rooms and telephone calls, now this is extended to all HF contests. It
> should be interesting to see what unintended consequences result from
> allowing multi-ops and assisted competitors to spot themselves. You could
> spot yourself with every CQ if you wanted to. Or you can call people on the
> phone and ask them to get on the air. Or send out email reminders to work
> you during the contest.
> > *> >* It is likely to have the most impact on SSB to produce spotting
> equal to what the RBN does for CW and RTTY.
> > *> >* For an organization that has always been so timid and conservative
> on rule changes, the ARRL seems to have sprung this one without much
> consultation with the contest community.  I assume it is in reaction to the
> W2RE incident several years ago in ARRL DX where he used live streaming on
> Facebook during the contest.
> > *> > >* Randy K5ZD
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