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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
From: sbloom@acsalaska.net
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 00:54:58 -0500
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If by any chance this was TLDR,

"Dawg, ya gotta give us OGs some respect, or we're gonna pop ya"

73

Schnauzer Doggy Dog
Director of Homeland Security
North Pole Contest Group KL7RA 
 


On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 18:04:34 -0900, Stephen Bloom <sbloom@acsalaska.net> wrote:

Sterling, I think conceptually you are correct, but the idea of just pulling 
the scab off, let it bleed and expect that it will heel stronger in the end, 
was very dismissive of the majority of the current community.  As I said in 
another email, there is no future without the present, and to put not too fine 
a point on it, those of us with heavy time, financial, and emotional 
investments in the hobby, also have the ability to pull our support.  Anybody 
who is taking this seriously probably has a pretty big ego.  Big ego's and 
being told rather than asked are a bad mix.There was a way to do this.  Yes, it 
would have taken longer and no doubt talked to death, but building consensus 
matters.  As I said, conceptually,  the idea is valid, and in my own social 
media, I've made it clear for awhile, that this was the necessary direction to 
go, for long term growth.  I'm also reasonably technically astute as far as I.T 
(I make a living with it) and  an accommodate most things.  If I want to 
Stream, I can  as an example.Thing is, I don't.  I support it all.  I own a M/M 
contest station which is as competitive as possible in a tough environment.   
My fun is getting a group of ops together, to have a blast, in person.  I don't 
even care much for remoting, though I'm fully supportive of it.  It makes 
contesting possible for so many people who couldn't otherwise.  For us, 
streaming would change our "vibe".  Enough to have me get out, probably not.  
If in person M/M becomes devalued overall though, then yes I would.  I'm only 
one guy and the world doesn't begin or end with me, but the contesting world 
would lose the KL mult on a lot of bands.  There would be others as well, and 
until a fully integrated Internet gaming/RF community achieves critical mass, 
we'll either be a part of the process, or we'll take our toys and find some 
other way to piss off the SO's, the neighbors, and local governments. 73Steve 
KL7SB Chief FiduciaryNorth Pole Contest Group KL7RA 
-------- Original message --------From: Sterling Mann  Date: 2/16/22 11:42 AM 
(GMT-09:00) To: "CQ-Contest@contesting.com"  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to 
allow self-spotting in contests I, for one, welcome our new 
insect...erm...contesting rules. This change isgood for the face of our 
hobby!This might be the rule change to open the floodgates of a new paradigm 
ofcontesting and a new generation of contesters. The ARRL is answering themail 
on getting ham radio into more peoples' eyeballs - that is throughcontent. The 
self-spotting rule is a barrier to that which makes streamershave to obscure 
frequencies and operate under an ethical gray area if theywant to be 
competitive and not have to submit as a check-log because,despite intent, more 
people may seek to work a streamer than anyone elseand that could be perceived 
as a solicitation of QSOs.This also opens the floodgates to a new type of QRM 
that we know very wellin the esports/video gaming world - stream sniping. 
Popular operators willcertainly draw trolls (but honestly, we already see that 
today, so what'sthe difference?). It'll also be interesting to see how 
self-spotting playsinto contesting strategy. Does a spot hold any weight on 
"this frequency isin use!" argument when your run freq gets trampled? How much 
differentwould a S&P's operator's score be if everyone self-spotted over the 
currentsystem?  Does search and pounce even make sense now that it's a little 
morepoint-and-shoot...click-and-transmit :) Or will the band window look 
anydifferent at allAnd remember, there is always a category that YOU can CHOOSE 
to compete in.But if you choose to compete unlimited, multiop, or otherwise 
assisted,then you might be in a new echelon. You might want to buy a webcam 
andlearn how to livestream and hold an audience (yes, people watch thisstuff!). 
You might want to self-spot (assuming you weren't already).I think this rule 
change levels the playing field amongst those who aretruly top-10 competitive, 
fixes the RBN gap,
eliminates self-spotting as asource of cheating (which is already wildly 
rampant and basically invisiblewithout a lot of manual pattern matching), and 
most importantly, opens abig door towards modernizing the hobby.I don't think 
the ARRL/CAC/whomever conferred with the contesting community(as far as you 
know) because they already knew the answer wouldoverwhelmingly be NO, and the 
alternatives (like a livestreamer category,or ultra-Unlimited categories) are 
too little. I'm happy the ARRL is makingsuch a sea-change. I'm sure they will 
enjoy reading the comments on it (andI hope they stick to their guns on this) 
but at the end of the day, theyneed to bring more hams into the hobby, more 
contesters on the air, moreactivity on the bands, and more members into the 
ARRL, and by promotinghigher scores, greater competition, and weaving this into 
the attentioneconomy of the internet through content creation, that goes a LONG 
way toinvesting in the future at the expense of the status quo.--Sterling 
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