So I sent in my 222 & Up log to LOTW. It was exported from N1MM as an
adif file. I checked and got an immediate match with VA3IKE for his 49th
grid on 432. Ike was very keen to get that contact logged in LOTW. It
was a new state on 432 as well as grid #49. The MODE I saw on LOTW was
SSB. We actually used Q65B-30 but I changed it to SSB. I am not sure
what mode VA3IKE used. I also got a note from K1TEO, who claims to have
also sent his log in. He had a match for only one contact with me on
SSB. He had an FT8 contact with me on 432 and I called it SSB. Jeff had
RY and there was no match. Strangely, I checked for K1TEO just now and
came up with NO MATCH!! What a mess. Jeff gets a match for our 222
contact but I do not.
I wish I had paid attention to this stuff before. I just assumed that
everything was fine with the world.
I will pursue this further.
Dave K1WHS
On 8/7/2023 3:24 PM, Bob Bownes wrote:
Would it make sense to ask the ARRL to establish a 'standard' for this
sort of thing as we do for internet standards (IETF) or telecom (ITU),
even if it is a 'compliance is not mandatory' kind of thing?
Easy to see an extension to digital modes, codecs, etc.
Bob, who has participated/written too many standards in his day
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 2:29 PM David Olean <k1whs@metrocast.net> wrote:
I have had all sorts of problems with logging software and contest
entry
software that processes logs. Maybe I missed it, but It is hard
to find
documentation that gets down and dirty to tell us what responses are
allowed in each block where data is entered. In this past contest I
used N1MM to log for the 222 and Up contest, and it allows certain
entries for MODE. My regular logging program is VQ-Log and it has
various modes allowed. When you make an ADIF file to submit to
the ARRL
LOTW, those choices may be incompatibile. The ADIF format allows only
SSB
CW
RTTY
TOR=AMTOR
PKT
AM
FM
SSTV
ATV
PAC=PACTOR
CLO=CLOVER
N1MM recognizes CW, USB, LSB, SSB, AM, FM,SSTV, RTTY, PSK31, PSK63,
PSK125, PSK250, DIGITAL, FT8 and FT4.
Note that many of the modes allowed by N1MM are not listed in the
ADIF
specification. This means that any program with the wrong mode
might be
bounced out of the LOTW log and you are out of luck. The contact is
discarded.
If you supply a Cabrillo file to the ARRL for your contest
submission,
the modes that are allowed are only
CW
PH
FM
RY
DG
It gets better. My daily logging software VQ-Log and is primarily
aimed
at VHF ops. There is a field for propagation type. If you read enough
you might find a comment telling you that the propagation mode is not
required in ADIF, but I found out the hard way that only certain
prop
modes are accepted by the ARRL adif files. TR means tropo but TRS in
VQ-LOg indicates tropo scatter which is a primary means that we
VHFers
communicate with. I hand copied almost all of my old paper logs and
entered the prop mode as TRS and only later found out that all of
those
submitted files went into the bit bucket in Newington. So I have
to go
back and modify all my entries from TRS to TR to make things work.
Really, my life is too short to have to deal with these glaring
software
compatability issues.
Somewhere, I have an email that delineates all of the prop modes
recognized by ARRL LOTW and the adif input file. I wish it had been
published somewhere.
So I submitted my 222 & Up file to LOTW. Please let me know if you do
not get a match. I ended up calling everything either CW or SSB.
There
was no real good choice for FT8 or MSK144, or Q65. You would think
that
maybe DIGI might be a good name for all of these VHF modes, but you
would be mistaken. Your choices are SSB or maybe RTTY. There must be
some patches between software to fix some of this, but it sure has
gotten me in trouble very often.
grumble grumble!
Dave K1WHS
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