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Re: Topband: CQ Zones

To: "Chortek, Robert L." <Robert.Chortek@berliner.com>, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
From: <mw_comercial@wp.pl>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 21:37:05 +0100
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
Yes, but all this was still HEARING signals on the radio.
Sounds coming from the speaker...

When I signed up to this list 15 years ago almost every day I was reading: "if you can't hear them you can't work'em"...
On FT8 you can not hear what you work.
This is the essential difference and it's not OK to say it's still the same ham radio, just a new digi mode.

People like it, because now, it's MUCH easier and require much less attention.
Many guys work DXCC's while doing their job on PC, etc.
Or I'm clicking "enable TX", going to the kitchen to make my coffee. Than I'm back to the shack and ... wow: just wkd ZL3RJ on 160m. Really? Well, obviously not. My PC connected to my station worked that, what I did was only my coffee.

73's
Mac SP2XF
(almost everyday on FT8)






-----Oryginalna wiadomość----- From: Chortek, Robert L.
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2021 4:30 PM
To: Joe Subich, W4TV
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones

THANK YOU JOE!  That pretty much captures the debate.

73,

Bob/AA6VB
Robert L. Chortek

On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com> wrote:

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Oh PLEASE!  You sound just like AM phone operators when SSB came
along.  And spark operators when CW started to replace it.

The first DX was nothing more than single letters ...

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-03-09 10:10 AM, Karel Matousek wrote:
I agree wit Martin OK1RR.

I cannot endorse FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program.

IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate rules
category!

Karel OK1CF
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Od: "Martin Kratoska" <martin@ok1rr.com>
Komu: topband@contesting.com
Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37
Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones

Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in
mixed categories.
This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional
modes like CW or SSB.

73,
Martin, OK1RR


Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
> Hi, Dave
>
> Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man.  He is active in contests and puts
out a good signal.
>
> Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge.  I have worked XX9D and a
couple of BY stations.  But you may need to use FT8 for the BY stations,
since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
>
> 73 and GL!
>
> Ian G4iiY
>


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