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Re: Topband: CQ Zones

To: martin@ok1rr.com
Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
From: Glenn Wyant <va3dx@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:45:56 -0500
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
And you decide whether any of us deserve to follow our own preferences!
We don't need you as a dumb ass wanna be leader.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2021, at 18:25, Martin Kratoska <martin@ok1rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Glenn (VA3DX),
> 
> BRAVO, I applaud!
> 
> So you claim the privilege to decide who should leave and who is allowed to 
> stay. And you will do it for ALL members of the list. You are a brilliant 
> character. The life with you must be a marvel.
> 
> Stay safe, 73
> Martin, OK1RR
> 
> 
> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 21:23 Glenn Wyant napsal(a):
>> And Martin there is no need for you stay here.
>> Obviously you don't need us , you are so much better than us ft8 Cw ssb rtty 
>> etc etc ops
>> Glenn VA3DX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 11:40, Martin Kratoska <martin@ok1rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bob et al,
>>> 
>>> all these rules can be preprogrammed into SV5DKL's robot which can "do the 
>>> QSO". Otherwise I can tell my dog where to paw, he would be possibly a 
>>> better FT8 "operator" than mine.
>>> 
>>> There is no need of ears, hands, brain or any knowledge. All the task can 
>>> be robotized. This does DEFINITELY NOT qualify as ham radio. I am very 
>>> sorry that I don't have any better news for you.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Martin, OK1RR
>>> 
>>> P.S. Any FT8 yes/no dispute is meaningless, at least in this mailing list, 
>>> isn't?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 17:19 Chortek, Robert L. napsal(a):
>>>> Actually, it is ham radio.
>>>> 
>>>> Have you spent any time with the mode?
>>>> 
>>>> For example,
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Have you identified a country you need for a bond slot or ATNO?
>>>> 
>>>> 2.  Have you determined the best time of year, time of day, and band to 
>>>> see if a station from that country is on?
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Have you searched the decodes daily for a station from that country?
>>>> 
>>>> 4. After spending days hunting that DX, have you FINALLY managed to be 
>>>> there when the propagation was favorable?
>>>> 
>>>> 5.  Have you then, after all that, called that DX and made the contact?
>>>> 
>>>> If that does not qualify as ham radio, I’m not sure what does.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>> Bob/AA6VB
>>>> Robert L. Chortek
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 8:04 AM, ok1tn <ok1tn@seznam.cz> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [External Email]
>>>> 
>>>> FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio
>>>> OK1TN
>>>> --
>>>> 73 Slavek Zeler
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Původní e-mail ----------
>>>> Od: Chortek, Robert L. <Robert.Chortek@berliner.com>
>>>> Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com>
>>>> Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21
>>>> Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
>>>> THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>> Bob/AA6VB
>>>> Robert L. Chortek
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [External Email]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh PLEASE! You sound just like AM phone operators when SSB came
>>>>> along. And spark operators when CW started to replace it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The first DX was nothing more than single letters ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2021-03-09 10:10 AM, Karel Matousek wrote:
>>>>>> I agree wit Martin OK1RR.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I cannot endorse FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate rules
>>>>>> category!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Karel OK1CF
>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> Od: "Martin Kratoska" <martin@ok1rr.com>
>>>>>>> Komu: topband@contesting.com
>>>>>>> Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37
>>>>>>> Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
>>>>>> Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in
>>>>>> mixed categories.
>>>>>> This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional
>>>>>> modes like CW or SSB.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Martin, OK1RR
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
>>>>>>> Hi, Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and puts
>>>>>> out a good signal.
>>>>>>> Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
>>>>>> couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY stations,
>>>>>> since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
>>>>>>> 73 and GL!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ian G4iiY
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