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Re: Topband: CQ Zones

To: "Dave Heil" <k8mn@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
From: "ok1tn " <ok1tn@seznam.cz>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:59:35 +0100 (CET)
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
VA3DX
pity you have such a nice callsign. Martin is a very erudite technician and 
a perfect operator. I don't even think you know what you're saying and you 
should consider your words.

-
73 Slavek Zeler
www.lc-variable.eu
www.okdxf.eu

-- 
73 Slavek Zeler
www.lc-variable.eu
www.okdxf.eu

---------- Původní e-mail ----------
Od: Dave Heil <k8mn@frontiernet.net>
Komu: topband@contesting.com
Datum: 10. 3. 2021 19:47:51
Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones 
"Do me a favor, Glenn;  read what you just sent and then look into a mirror.

Dave K8MN


On 3/9/2021 08:45 PM, Glenn Wyant wrote:
> And you decide whether any of us deserve to follow our own preferences!
> We don't need you as a dumb ass wanna be leader.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 18:25, Martin Kratoska <martin@ok1rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Glenn (VA3DX),
>>
>> BRAVO, I applaud!
>>
>> So you claim the privilege to decide who should leave and who is allowed 
to stay. And you will do it for ALL members of the list. You are a brilliant
character. The life with you must be a marvel.
>>
>> Stay safe, 73
>> Martin, OK1RR
>>
>>
>> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 21:23 Glenn Wyant napsal(a):
>>> And Martin there is no need for you stay here.
>>> Obviously you don't need us , you are so much better than us ft8 Cw ssb 
rtty etc etc ops
>>> Glenn VA3DX
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 11:40, Martin Kratoska <martin@ok1rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bob et al,
>>>>
>>>> all these rules can be preprogrammed into SV5DKL's robot which can "do 
the QSO". Otherwise I can tell my dog where to paw, he would be possibly a 
better FT8 "operator" than mine.
>>>>
>>>> There is no need of ears, hands, brain or any knowledge. All the task 
can be robotized. This does DEFINITELY NOT qualify as ham radio. I am very 
sorry that I don't have any better news for you.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Martin, OK1RR
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Any FT8 yes/no dispute is meaningless, at least in this mailing 
list, isn't?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 17:19 Chortek, Robert L. napsal(a):
>>>>> Actually, it is ham radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you spent any time with the mode?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Have you identified a country you need for a bond slot or ATNO?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Have you determined the best time of year, time of day, and band to
see if a station from that country is on?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Have you searched the decodes daily for a station from that 
country?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. After spending days hunting that DX, have you FINALLY managed to be
there when the propagation was favorable?
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Have you then, after all that, called that DX and made the contact?
>>>>>
>>>>> If that does not qualify as ham radio, I’m not sure what does.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob/AA6VB
>>>>> Robert L. Chortek
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 8:04 AM, ok1tn <ok1tn@seznam.cz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> [External Email]
>>>>>
>>>>> FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio
>>>>> OK1TN
>>>>> --
>>>>> 73 Slavek Zeler
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Původní e-mail ----------
>>>>> Od: Chortek, Robert L. <Robert.Chortek@berliner.com>
>>>>> Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com>
>>>>> Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21
>>>>> Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
>>>>> THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob/AA6VB
>>>>> Robert L. Chortek
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com> 
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [External Email]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh PLEASE! You sound just like AM phone operators when SSB came
>>>>>> along. And spark operators when CW started to replace it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first DX was nothing more than single letters ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2021-03-09 10:10 AM, Karel Matousek wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree wit Martin OK1RR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot endorse FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate 
rules
>>>>>>> category!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karel OK1CF
>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Od: "Martin Kratoska" <martin@ok1rr.com>
>>>>>>>> Komu: topband@contesting.com
>>>>>>>> Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37
>>>>>>>> Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
>>>>>>> Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in
>>>>>>> mixed categories.
>>>>>>> This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional
>>>>>>> modes like CW or SSB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> Martin, OK1RR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
>>>>>>>> Hi, Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and puts
>>>>>>> out a good signal.
>>>>>>>> Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
>>>>>>> couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY 
stations,
>>>>>>> since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
>>>>>>>> 73 and GL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ian G4iiY
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