Thanks to some helpful responders, it does appear likely that this issue
is more ignorance than sinister.
N1MM, and perhaps other loggers, provide auto-spotting if you select
it. It only functions in S&P. This would be fine EXCEPT the op who
selected Auto-Spot may sometimes operate in RUN mode and then QSY, which
causes N1MM to then enter the S&P mode automatically. There is nothing
to stop the op from manually calling CQ and Running while the Run/S&P
choice remains with S&P selected, when never touching the F1 key. As a
result, the Auto-Spot will remain active and the op will be spotting
their run log but unware, There is no obvious indication in the N1MM
widows that Auto-Spot is active in this case. I intend to address a
question to N1MM folks on this.
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So for my initial matter of evident false QC spots on the spotter's Run
frequency - due to my sole focus on QC, the QC spots mentioned were
likely due to N*** legitimately being called by 2 QCs within 20 minutes.
Very likely there were other false spots that I was not monitoring as
well. I confess being on high alert for QC since I missed it also on cw
to compound the torture.
Still there may be benefit to these false spots to the spotter even
though unintended. For rare section spots, others will be attracted to
that run frequency hoping for their missing mult. However, this is
wasteful of the time of other ops who chase stations who are not
actually there so it is not harmless.
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For those few unaware, in the N1MM Config menu there is the option:
Automatically Spot New S&P QSOs
When activated, a message appears at bottom of entry window saying
"Automatic Spotting of S&P QSOs to your Telnet DX Cluster is enabled."
This message lasts for about 10 seconds and then vanishes never to be
seen again.
Done now, N6MW
On 11/21/2023 11:52 AM, Radio K0HB wrote:
I had this happen to me a number of times this weekend — “What’s that guy
doing on my run QRG on the bandmap? I just worked him!” Doesn’t happen on
CW because you hit <f1>.
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 13:23 Jack Brindle via CQ-Contest <
cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
This also might be something far less sinister.
Most loggers allow you to auto-spot stations you have worked while S&P. If
you switch over to running, but haven’t told the logger, this will
continue, spotting stations on your run frequency. I will admit to being
guilty of this from time to time. When I see a station I just worked show
up on my run frequency I will quickly switch the logger over to run mode to
limit the number of bogus spots.
It isn’t always that someone is trying to game the system or do something
they shouldn’t.
For the record, it wasn’t me. My one and only QC was worked while S&P this
weekend.
73,
Jack, W6FB
On Nov 20, 2023, at 11:21 PM, David Gilbert<ab7echo@gmail.com> wrote:
I've never understood why callsigns aren't provided in posts like this.
If you're certain of what you said, it can be verified by matching the spot
with the culprit's log ... assuming that the ploy was successful in
garnering him some contacts. If you're not certain, your post is out of
place.
Self-policing isn't self-policing if everything is kept anonymous.
Dave AB7E
On 11/20/2023 11:50 AM, Bill N6MW wrote:
Near the end of phone SS, QC was need for the sweep. An N*** spotted a
bogus VE2 on his run frequency. A bit later he did again on a different
frequency. So this brilliantly solves the moral dilemma of self-spotting.
QC never found.
N6MW
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