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Re: [CQ-Contest] EU out of band on 160

To: Albert crespo <f5vhj@orange.fr>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] EU out of band on 160
From: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 06:49:33 -0500
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Working such a station can negatively impact your score as some
participants will remove the QSO immediately when they figure they’re out
of band.

Ria
N2RJ

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:33 AM Albert crespo <f5vhj@orange.fr> wrote:

> During CQWW SSB I always get called by some USA stations out of their
> allowed  operating privileges. I just ignore them. Sometimes they persist
> for quite a long time. Some do this because of an error on their part
> partial because they have made an honest mistake. I do not want to waste my
> time to tell them they are in the wrong. I am a serious competitor and I do
> want to waste my time.
> If a causal competitor wants to play policeman and inform them they are
> out of band, they are free to do so.
> Working them is a serious mistake because I send my finished log to LOTW
> and OQRS.
> These programs will just confirm the QSO and not whether the operating
> frequency is valid or not.
> 73, Al
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 29 Jan 2020, at 21:22, K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us> wrote:
> >
> > Well, one could argue that it's not my job to enforce the band limits
> in another country. Also, it's possible some stations have special
> permission to operate there. Again, it's not my job to know that. They
> called, I logged them.
> >
> > 73,
> > Scott K9MA
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 1/29/2020 12:44, OZ1BII Henning wrote:
> >> IMHO... Why do you contact the station when you know it is violating
> the rules ?
> >> Who has the biggest fault ?
> >> Just a simple question
> >>
> >> And happily we have the Contest Committee who fully know their job and
> how to handle the situation.
> >> -----------------------------------
> >> * Vy 73 de OZ2I Henning *
> >> -----------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> Den ons. 29. jan. 2020 kl. 16.27 skrev Ron Notarius W3WN via CQ-Contest
> <cq-contest@contesting.com <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>>:
> >>
> >>    Hi Scott,
> >>
> >>    IMHO... no.
> >>
> >>    While I do not condone improper operation, and I know many if
> >>    not most EU stations are not permitted below 1810 kHz... you did
> >>    not operate improperly.  You operated within the terms of your
> >>    license.
> >>
> >>    There may also be extenuating circumstances... for example some of
> >>    these stations may have received special dispensation to operate
> >>    from 1800 - 1810.  (Yes, I know that's highly unlikely, but it is
> >>    possible)
> >>
> >>    I would also like to believe that the log checking software would
> >>    catch any such violations.  If so, the burden or penalty ought to
> >>    be on the station caught operating out of band.  You were not out
> >>    of band.  (That's presuming, of course, that the log checking
> >>    software IS set up to catch said violations)
> >>
> >>    However, I would email the Contest Committee immediately (if you
> >>    haven't already done so) and ask for their decision on the
> >>    matter.  It is the Committee's opinion on potential rules
> >>    violations that is paramount.
> >>
> >>    73, ron w3wn
> >>
> >>
> >>    -----Original Message-----
> >>    From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us <mailto:k9ma@sdellington.us>>
> >>    To: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com
> >>    <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>>
> >>    Sent: Tue, Jan 28, 2020 8:55 pm
> >>    Subject: [CQ-Contest] EU out of band on 160
> >>
> >>    Last weekend, 11 Europeans called me on 1804. Should I delete those
> >>    contacts?
> >>
> >>    73,
> >>
> >>    Scott K9MA
> >>
> >>    --     Scott  K9MA
> >>
> >>    k9ma@sdellington.us <mailto:k9ma@sdellington.us>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Scott  K9MA
> >
> > k9ma@sdellington.us
> >
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