Terry,
This makes more sense now.
Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate
autocorrect.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Terry Zivney <n4tz@arrl.net> wrote:
>
> The rules of the CQ WPX Contest state clearly that
> "C. Logs submitted or postmarked after the deadline may be listed in the
> results, but are not eligible for awards."
>
> This means not eligible for first place, second place, or last place
> awards. (The online certificate generator for CQ WPX will print
> certificates for all places for valid entrees.) Once upon a time,
> when logs were received after the deadline, their scores were not reported at
> all. The CQ WPX Contest (and also, I believe) the CQ WW Contest want to use
> all possible means to adjudicate the contest. That means we want everyone's
> log, even those that choose not to meet all
> the rules of the contest. We even provide feedback to everyone
> who sends in a log by scoring the log and provided Log Checking
> Reports for each log so that operators can improve their performance
> in the future.
>
> The Raw scores or Claimed scores are just that: scores that have
> not been checked to determine what their final scores would be.
>
> The log deadline was announced months before the CQ WPX contest. No
> rules were changed after the contest.
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ
> CQ WPX Contest Director
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2015 6:58 PM, Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest
> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
>
>
> The way I look at this, other than the WRTC2018 event itself, WRTC does not
> assign points on its own. That is, they depend on other contest organizers,
> such as WPX, to assign points and determine if participants have followed the
> rules.
>
> In your case, WRTC has overruled WPX, even though WRTC has no authority over
> WPX. Sure, WRTC can maintain their current position on many valid concerns-
> "Our way or the highway"- but is indeed unfair.
>
> I have no horse in this game. As an observer, I have the feeling WRTC forgets
> that the event is all about the competitors, not the organizers. There have
> been quite a few thoughtful comments from well respected competitors whose
> feedback has been met with "These are our rules, they are set in stone, and
> too bad if you don't like them".
>
> Rudy N2WQ
>
> Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate
> autocorrect.
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Ashraf Chaabane <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, and I don't think this is fair!
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Ash 3V8BB/KF5EYY
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 04 Oct 2015, at 21:35, Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ash,
> >>
> >> Are you saying that WPX accepted and published your score, but WRTC chose
> >> to not accept it?
> >>
> >> Rudy N2WQ
> >>
> >> Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or
> >> inappropriate autocorrect.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Ashraf CHAABANE <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Ulf,
> >>>
> >>> This rule of removing WRTC points for 'late log' was added recently. I
> >>> can't
> >>> see if this is a good practice to update rules while qualification race is
> >>> ongoing.
> >>>
> >>> I sent my log few hours after the deadline, HOWEVER: I'm compliant with
> >>> WPX
> >>> rules, my log is valid, my QSOs are confirmed, my score is listed (was not
> >>> re-classified as a Checklog!). I simply won't receive a paper certificate.
> >>> This is very disappointing that I'm punished two times.
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I do 260 km to operate every contest and a lot of arrangements
> >>> are made to free up time. Then I see zero WRTC points.
> >>>
> >>> By the way, Africa is split in two separate areas however one TL will be
> >>> selected. That means, a competitor from South West Africa can have ALL
> >>> WRTC
> >>> points each contest with only few QSOs made and get qualified, while those
> >>> in North Africa where competition is hot will stay home.
> >>> I didn't comment on that previously, I understood that rules are made and
> >>> I
> >>> should respect them. But please consider re-visiting this new rule of
> >>> "late
> >>> log".
> >>>
> >>> Appreciate the efforts you are doing to make WRTC2018 a successful event!
> >>>
> >>> vy73
> >>> --
> >>> Ash KF5EYY
> >>> Op. 3V8SS, 3V8BB
> >>> www.kf5eyy.info
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 22:36:38 +0200
> >>> From: "DL5AXX, WRTC2018" <dl5axx@wrtc2018.de>
> >>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com, rrdxa@mailman.qth.net,
> >>> bcc@bavarian-contest-club.de, wrtc2018@lists.wrtc2018.de
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings
> >>> Message-ID: <560D9956.2000109@wrtc2018.de>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >>>
> >>> Hi folks,
> >>>
> >>> even added WAE SSB claimed and RDXC finals. Points for 'late logs' from
> >>> the
> >>> CQ WPX SSB are removed (see FAQ -
> >>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2).
> >>>
> >>> Current standings at
> >>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2/standings-2
> >>>
> >>> 73 Ulf, DL5AXX
> >>> WRTC2018 qualifications
> >>>
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