The rules of the CQ WPX Contest state clearly that "C. Logs submitted or
postmarked after the deadline may be listed in the results, but are not
eligible for awards."
This means not eligible for first place, second place, or last placeawards.
(The online certificate generator for CQ WPX will printcertificates for all
places for valid entrees.) Once upon a time,when logs were received after the
deadline, their scores were not reported at all. The CQ WPX Contest (and also,
I believe) the CQ WW Contest want to use all possible means to adjudicate the
contest. That means we want everyone's log, even those that choose not to meet
allthe rules of the contest. We even provide feedback to everyonewho sends in
a log by scoring the log and provided Log CheckingReports for each log so that
operators can improve their performancein the future.
The Raw scores or Claimed scores are just that: scores that havenot been
checked to determine what their final scores would be.
The log deadline was announced months before the CQ WPX contest. Norules were
changed after the contest.
Terry Zivney, N4TZCQ WPX Contest Director
On Sunday, October 4, 2015 6:58 PM, Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest
<cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
The way I look at this, other than the WRTC2018 event itself, WRTC does not
assign points on its own. That is, they depend on other contest organizers,
such as WPX, to assign points and determine if participants have followed the
rules.
In your case, WRTC has overruled WPX, even though WRTC has no authority over
WPX. Sure, WRTC can maintain their current position on many valid concerns-
"Our way or the highway"- but is indeed unfair.
I have no horse in this game. As an observer, I have the feeling WRTC forgets
that the event is all about the competitors, not the organizers. There have
been quite a few thoughtful comments from well respected competitors whose
feedback has been met with "These are our rules, they are set in stone, and too
bad if you don't like them".
Rudy N2WQ
Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate
autocorrect.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Ashraf Chaabane <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, and I don't think this is fair!
>
> 73
>
> Ash 3V8BB/KF5EYY
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 04 Oct 2015, at 21:35, Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ash,
>>
>> Are you saying that WPX accepted and published your score, but WRTC chose to
>> not accept it?
>>
>> Rudy N2WQ
>>
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate
>> autocorrect.
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Ashraf CHAABANE <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Ulf,
>>>
>>> This rule of removing WRTC points for 'late log' was added recently. I can't
>>> see if this is a good practice to update rules while qualification race is
>>> ongoing.
>>>
>>> I sent my log few hours after the deadline, HOWEVER: I'm compliant with WPX
>>> rules, my log is valid, my QSOs are confirmed, my score is listed (was not
>>> re-classified as a Checklog!). I simply won't receive a paper certificate.
>>> This is very disappointing that I'm punished two times.
>>>
>>> Personally, I do 260 km to operate every contest and a lot of arrangements
>>> are made to free up time. Then I see zero WRTC points.
>>>
>>> By the way, Africa is split in two separate areas however one TL will be
>>> selected. That means, a competitor from South West Africa can have ALL WRTC
>>> points each contest with only few QSOs made and get qualified, while those
>>> in North Africa where competition is hot will stay home.
>>> I didn't comment on that previously, I understood that rules are made and I
>>> should respect them. But please consider re-visiting this new rule of "late
>>> log".
>>>
>>> Appreciate the efforts you are doing to make WRTC2018 a successful event!
>>>
>>> vy73
>>> --
>>> Ash KF5EYY
>>> Op. 3V8SS, 3V8BB
>>> www.kf5eyy.info
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 22:36:38 +0200
>>> From: "DL5AXX, WRTC2018" <dl5axx@wrtc2018.de>
>>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com, rrdxa@mailman.qth.net,
>>> bcc@bavarian-contest-club.de, wrtc2018@lists.wrtc2018.de
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings
>>> Message-ID: <560D9956.2000109@wrtc2018.de>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> even added WAE SSB claimed and RDXC finals. Points for 'late logs' from the
>>> CQ WPX SSB are removed (see FAQ -
>>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2).
>>>
>>> Current standings at
>>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2/standings-2
>>>
>>> 73 Ulf, DL5AXX
>>> WRTC2018 qualifications
>>>
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