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Re: [VHFcontesting] FT4 Mode

To: Jay RM <w9rm@calmesapartners.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] FT4 Mode
From: John Kludt <johnnykludt@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 15:08:11 -0400
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Jay,

And given that there is no mode differential in VHF contesting as long as
the Q's are getting made, it probably does not matter.  Unless there are an
infinite or very large number of stations to work I just don't see the
issue.

It's a hobby and the point is to have fun.

John

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:45 PM Jay RM <w9rm@calmesapartners.com> wrote:

> ..of course, another possibility that one can't get a run going on SSB
> is..... wait for it.
>
> Everyone is on 50.313
>
> -W9RM
>
> Keith Morehouse
> via MotoG
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019, 12:41 PM Scott Armstrong <aa5am@vntx.net> wrote:
>
> > The short answer...  yes.
> >
> > I always go LP (100w) in most of the VHF contests because I can't compete
> > with the guy down the road that has the KW and stacked beams.  I find it
> > true lots of times when trying to work a run station that I end up
> waiting
> > in line to work the guy.
> > Usually because propagation is favoring some other area or has his beam
> > pointing somewhere else.
> >
> > The flip side of that coin is also true.... If I try to get a run going ,
> > it is usually short lived and can't be sustained so find myself calling
> > endless CQs with no replies.   All this chews up the QSO rate.
> >
> > -Scott AA5AM
> >
> > -Scott AA5AM
> >
> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:29 PM Jay RM <w9rm@calmesapartners.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This is a interesting thought and one that I hadn't considered.  Do
> others
> >> see this when trying to answer a running station ?
> >>
> >> When I'm running a pileup, I work them until there is nobody left.  I
> know
> >> some have to call a couple of times and a small minority give up
> (usually
> >> right before there is total silence on the freq and they could have been
> >> heard Q5 - but I understand the rate thing very well), but 99% of the
> >> time,
> >> if you call me and I'm stronger then S1, I'll work you pretty quick.
> >>
> >> -W9RM
> >>
> >> Keith J Morehouse
> >> Managing Partner
> >> Calmesa Partners G.P.
> >> Olathe, CO
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:20 PM Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Jay: The argument that SSB is so much faster than FT8/4 and stations
> >> > should switch to SSB when the band is open is not universally true. It
> >> is
> >> > if you are the station running guys on a specific frequency, but NOT
> if
> >> you
> >> > are one of the poorer equipped calling the running station.  When
> >> running
> >> > low power, it will often take 10 or more minutes to work a station on
> >> SSB
> >> > when the band is open -- I am competing with many stations with better
> >> > signals than me. But, on FT8/4, everyone gets decoded, and my rate
> >> actually
> >> > goes up. --Mike, WV2ZOWcom/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting
> >> > <http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting>
> >> >
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