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Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics questions

To: Duane - N9DG <n9dg@yahoo.com>, 'Paul Kiesel' <k7cw@yahoo.com>, 'VHF Contest Reflector' <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>, "Chet, N8RA" <chetsubaccount@snet.net>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics questions
From: Paul Drexler W2PED <pdrexler@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:01:01 +0000
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Duane,

Just as an "FYI" there is a SURPRISING amount of random activity on the WSJT 
calling frequencies, particularly during contests.  During the past several 
January contests at N3NGE's we've worked  nearly a dozen completely random 
qso's on 50.260 via WSJT.... no scheduling required!

Give the mode a try... I think you'll like it!

73, Paul w2ped


> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:17:08 -0700
> From: n9dg@yahoo.com
> To: k7cw@yahoo.com; vhfcontesting@contesting.com; chetsubaccount@snet.net
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics questions
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Chet, N8RA <chetsubaccount@snet.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Chet, N8RA <chetsubaccount@snet.net>
> > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics questions
> > To: "'Paul Kiesel'" <k7cw@yahoo.com>, "'VHF Contest Reflector'" 
> > <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 12:16 PM
> > Hi Paul,
> > A ping jockey listing by station saying he is now on freq X
> > using modulation
> > Y now calling CQ is really a self-spot by that station.
> > That itself is
> > something not allowed for him by another rule I think, and
> > it is not
> > permitted for a person entering as a single op to connect
> > to that
> > assistance. This PJ spot is not really different than a
> > packet spot, isn't
> > it?
> 
> I really do think that WSJT is a genuinely cool mode. However what has really 
> kept me from really wanting to pursue it is the standard operating practice 
> of real-time or near real-time Internet coordination of a majority of the 
> QSO's done with it. In fact in general I'm just not a big fan of scheduling 
> contacts at all. Which is also why EME (WSJT or otherwise) hasn't really 
> tripped my trigger much either, there's just too much "scheduling" of Q's for 
> it to intrigue me much.
> 
> Now if WSJT was implemented in a CWSkimmer like configuration where it was 
> watching a wide swath of spectrum for totally random (i.e. unscheduled) 
> signals then I'd be all over it. I want it to be me and/or my equipment to 
> find the signals through my own antennas on the band of interest. It's just 
> not as sporting to me to look for someone because they told me that they were 
> there. Too much like commercial game farm "hunting", ... and with some 
> animals even tied up... Now some will argue that "running the bands" is 
> tantamount to scheduled contacts as well, perhaps it is to a degree, but 
> finding that other station to work at all in the first place (without using 
> outside means or schedules) I think is the critical differentiator.
> 
> Duane
> N9DG
> 
> 
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