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Re: Topband: Adding connectoirs to CATV Hardline

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Subject: Re: Topband: Adding connectoirs to CATV Hardline
From: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 19:21:45 +0000 (UTC)
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Plumbing parts work, but the problem is that there is a lot of catv hardline 
that is an odd size. For example, I have  some 0.412 inch diameter cable and 
some 0.540 inch cable. That is what motivated me to learn how to use pin 
connectors.

Tor N4OGW



On Thursday, June 4, 2020, 2:00:38 PM CDT, <lee@k7tjr.com> wrote: 





Hi Guys,
    There is an article in one of the ham magazines from years ago that 
describes how to make an adapter from brass tubing compression sleve fittings 
(from auto parts store) that adapts from 1/2 inch CATV Hardline cable to UHF 
male connectors RG-8 size. Anti-oxidants required. I have been doing this for 
years with no problems at 1500 watts. There is a pair on my 80 meter 4-square 
as we speak. Its been so long that I have since forgotten where the article 
was. Perhaps an internet search would bring it up. I would write something up 
but I have my hands full at the moment with cleaning up after a tornado like 
storm with 100 MPH winds that went right over my house. Minimal damage except 
for the top 1/3 of my 160 vertical and lots of tall trees down in what's left 
of the yard. All else is fine with nothing I can't repair.
    Good luck.
Lee  K7TJR  Culver OR



Clamps do work ok with CATV hardline, but you have to be careful as it is very 
easy to crush the hardline. Also, waterproofing is always a pain.

As W7WKR posted, I also adapt pin connectors, which are the standard way of 
terminating catv hardline. Here are some comments:

Pin connectors have the same thread size (5/8") that is found on so-239s or N 
connectors. They are fairly cheap to buy new or can be found on ebay. One 
difficulty with pin connectors compared to many other hardline connectors is 
that it is nearly impossible to install them on catv hardline unless you have  
a coring tool of the right size to fit the hardline. This is because the pin 
connectors clamp onto the shield from both sides, so you have to completely 
remove the insulation from the hardline for 1-2" back up into the cable. Coring 
tools are > $100 new, but I have found them used for $20-$40. The used ones are 
often pretty worn out: however, with care you can sharpen the cutting parts 
with a file or stone, which makes a big difference. It can also be tricky to 
figure out how much center conductor you need sticking out for a given pin 
connector- some of the connectors have little tick marks on the outside that 
show the correct length to cut the center conductor.

Once you have the pin connector on, then:

1. For type N: the body of a "clamp" type N connector will screw directly onto 
the pin connector (discard the smaller clamp part with male threads that 
normally goes on the RG-8). I just cut the pin to length and file the end down 
to a point. You do have to be careful that the point is not too wide, otherwise 
it might break the female contact.

2. For UHF: there are similar clamp-type UHF connectors available with the same 
5/8 thread in the connector body. Here is one example:

https://www.w5swl.com/Coax-Connector-UHF-Female-Clamp-fits-RG-8AU-RG-213-Series-Cable--by-W5SWL_p_466.html

just cut the pin to the right length, solder on the center female connector, 
and screw the body on.

3. You can also just drill a hole in a metal box and attach the pin connector 
with a nut meant to go on SO239s.

There are also splice connectors to join two pieces of hardline. These are nice 
because they don't require any waterproofing. There are also some that end in 
an F connector instead of a pin.

Tor
N4OGW





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