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Re: Topband: Monopole Elev Pattern w.r.t. Earth Conductivity

To: "Mike Waters" <mikewate@gmail.com>, "topband" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Monopole Elev Pattern w.r.t. Earth Conductivity
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Reply-to: Tom W8JI <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:44:20 -0400
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Did you --or anyone else you are aware of-- ever A-B test a ~120' tower
against a ~300' tower on 160?

I A-B or A-B-C tested several antennas, including a low dipole, the high dipole, an element from my four square, a ~318 foot insulated tower vertical, and I think my tall omni vertical was about 190 feet at that time.

The tall vertical tower was definitely worse compared to shorter verticals, and had almost no short skip signal around Georgia. I had isolation chokes for lights and a base insulator, but that 300+ foot tower was so poor I never used it as a vertical.

By the way, to show how bad interaction is, I had to detune unused towers even when they were 300 feet or so apart.

If you recall W8LT and the balloon verticals, they didn't do so well with that antenna at 5/8th wave. I used WSPD, WOHO, and WXEZ (King Road 350 ft) towers also, but had no A-B tests.

Anything tall or new received good reports, if I told the other person it was tall or new. This is a common result, similar to the well-known G5RV effects. Pick an unpopular antenna like a G5RV and say you are using it in a test, and even if you do not actually switch antennas the G5RV will get a weaker report over long averages of tests. You can see a similar effect with guest operators and a no-change switch position. They always like the better antenna, even when it is the same antenna. :-)

To avoid the G5RV effect when making A-B tests, I never said which antenna was actually A or B. I also would randomly change A or B around in different tests. Just watching reports without changing antennas at all is interesting.

73 Tom
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