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Re: [RTTY] ARRL attack on current RTTY users

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL attack on current RTTY users
From: David Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Reply-to: dave@nk7z.net
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 06:42:16 -0800
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Al,

Thank you for that link!  I now understand the dangers.
-- 
Thanks and 73's,
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for MixW support see;
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for Dopplergram information see:
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for MM-SSTV see:
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On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 21:32 -0500, Al Kozakiewicz wrote: 
> A Google search returns lots of discussions of this proposal going back more 
> than a decade.
> 
> Some of the arguments against contain the same spittle flecked invective 
> hurled against the ARRL on a daily basis in the general class portion of the 
> 80M phone band (a.k.a. "CB") because it's from the ARRL and contains the 
> letters "A", "R" and "L"; and the second shooter/9-11 inside job conspiracy 
> fans that believe the HF bands would be overrun by millions of yacht owning 
> hams checking their email.
> 
> I'm all for dropping symbol rate restrictions.  But allowing 2.8 kHz 
> bandwidth signals anywhere RTTY is allowed would be detrimental during 
> contest weekends, when you can find RTTY operators well into the .100+ 
> segments of the bands that are forbidden to SSB in the US but nowhere else in 
> the world (a tangent I won't belabor here).  How many RTTY signals can 
> coexist cheek to jowl in any 10 kHz segment of spectrum?  How many 2.8 kHz 
> wide modes?
> 
> W8JI has a good explanation of the practical problems of intermixing wide and 
> narrow bandwidth modes at http://w8ji.com/mixing_wide_and_narrow_modes.htm 
> 
> I'm not saying don't do it at all, but if you're going to allow 2.8 kHz wide 
> digital modes, you have to restrict them to sub-segments, and not the entire 
> digital segment.
> 
> Al
> AB2ZY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Cole
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:49 PM
> To: rtty@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL attack on current RTTY users
> 
> Hi,
> 
> That would help me as well, I do not see how this harms RTTY, and if it does, 
> I would like better understand.
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
> for MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> for Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> for MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 16:18 -0800, Bill Turner wrote: 
> > Ben, could you post a brief summary of the proposed action including the
> > pros and cons?
> > 
> > This is just the kind of thing that should be debated here.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 73, Bill W6WRT
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