It comes down to ethical operating behavior, Pete.
And as you and I both know, from many, many years on this reflector, there is a
severe disagreement amongst many vocal participants about what is and is not
ethical.
(and I say “ethical” simply because something is “legal” or permitted under the
rules doesn’t mean it’s right. A discussion for another time)
So, for example, I may choose to not use SCP. That doesn’t mean I’m right - or
wrong. Whether or not you choose to do so is up to you. If you’re comfortable
with it, and do not believe your use is against the rules, who am I to say
otherwise? Even if I’m not comfortable with it, for me.
73, Ron W3WN
> On Jun 3, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> But then, why are call history files or super check partial files not
> illegal? For that matter, cluster-derived spot information (even if only the
> callsign) isn't derived from on-the-air activity by the recipient. Seems to
> me like this is a bridge long crossed.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
>> On 6/3/2023 5:29 AM, Stanley Zawrotny wrote:
>> Looking up a callsign on QRZ can be considered assisted if the contest uses
>> any of the information provided as part of an exchange; name or state are
>> the most common, counties are used in state QSO parties.
>>
>> Stan, K4SBZ
>>
>> "Real radio bounces off the sky."
>>
>>> On Jun 3, 2023, at 1:57 AM, Doug Bates<kv4zy.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Art,
>>> I don't claim to know all, but it strikes me as strange that a callsign
>>> lookup on any database could be against any rules. The nearest thing I can
>>> think of that may be anywhere near related in the rules of some contests is
>>> forbidding "Assisted" where contesters follow a cluster to find contacts
>>> that are currently reported as being on. Callsign lookup does not seem to
>>> me to be anywhere close to using a cluster to find contacts. But what do I
>>> know:)
>>> 73 & God Bless
>>> De KV4ZY
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:24 PM Art Boyars<artboyars@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On the N1MM reflector somebody asked about how to use the "QRZ" button
>>>> during the contest for calls that don't appear in the "check" window. I
>>>> guess he was talking about the SCP or CHF data files loaded into N1MM.
>>>>
>>>> A few people commented that looking it up on QRZ.com (or some other online
>>>> database??) during the contest was against the rules.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see any difference between using an online databas and using SCP
>>>> and CHF (except that SCP/CHF is faster).
>>>>
>>>> What do you wise people think?
>>>>
>>>> 73, art K3KU
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