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Re: [CQ-Contest] Tower safety

To: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>, James Cain <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Tower safety
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 06:46:10 -0500
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I think that issue is that the discussion Jim had did not get to the true root 
cause analysis in all cases.  HE did speak about temporary guying below the 
work on  a tower and doing the "off the tower" movement of guys which clearly 
was a root cause of more than one known tower incident.

I believe that a rusted base at the concrete exit point was a root cause and I 
am not sure I heard that mentioned.

W0AIH's fatality was in no way due to not using the proper safety harness.  
There are pictures of him using one.  I am not sure what failed in his arrest 
system.  But wearing the wrong harness is not what it was.

To be truthful to the root cause analysis process, of which I do a lot if it at 
work, is there documented fatalities of wearing the lesser harness than what 
Jim was showing on the video?  If so, what happened, and how would it be 
mitigated by that ewquipment?

If we REALLY want to improve safety, we should focus on what's killing people.  
Not on what isn't killing people.

Some of that occurred on Jim's talk.  Some of it did not.  And some of it is 
great advice but may have no direct impact on reducing what's killing people.

Ed  N1UR

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Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:19 PM
To: James Cain
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Tower safety

You got lucky.

I prefer not to rely on luck, and it doesn’t take much time to get properly 
suited up at all.

As for replacing the climbing apparatus, I wouldn’t trust it if it arrested a 
serious fall. Stress on that kind of apparatus is cumulative so there may be 
hidden danger.

This is your life you’re gambling with and by all means I won’t tell you how to 
live it, but I prefer not to roll the dice.

Ria
N2RJ

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:22 PM James Cain <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com> wrote:

> I did pretty serious tower work for more than 20 years and quit at age 44.
> By the time I had got suited up in that equipment in the K1IR video it 
> would have been too dark to get any work done. And what's this about 
> "If you fall, (the manufacturer says) to throw away the climbing apparatus"?
> And what? Buy another climbing apparatus from us?
>
> K1TN
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