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Re: [CQ-Contest] Tower safety

To: "'Edward Sawyer'" <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>, "'Jim George'" <n3bb@mindspring.com>, <rjairam@gmail.com>, "'James Cain'" <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Tower safety
From: <wc1m73@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:58:40 -0500
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
I completely agree that failure analysis is key to reducing/eliminating 
accidents ("Air Disasters" on Smithsonian Channels, which focuses on the NTSB 
analysis of airplane accidents, is one of my favorite programs.)

But one rule I try to follow that may not directly flow from analysis is:

- Carefully plan every climb, right down to the sequence of operations and 
moves you and your ground crew will need to make and every tool/part you will 
need. Write it down, go over it several times, refine it and memorize it.

Also, make sure your ground crew thoroughly understands what need to be done.

I did this when I built my 110' Rohn 55 tower, which has three TIC rings and 
six antennas. Big, complicated project that required every step to be thought 
through. That took more time, but it was worth it. I still try to follow the 
rule even for small projects on the tower. Once, when planning the project to 
tram the top yagi I built a small model of the mast with it's existing antenna 
and the one I was going to place above it to plan out the moves I'd need to 
make to get the upper antenna past the lower antenna. I learned that it wasn't 
going to work unless I partially disassembled the upper antenna and assembled 
it on the mast. Glad I found that out before trying to raise the assembled 
antenna.

Of course, few if any projects go as planned, so you may have to make 
adjustments. But I've found that following this rule improves safety and can 
substantially reduce time spent on the tower. It also eliminates the 
all-too-common problem of getting to your work position only to find out you 
forgot to bring a tool or a part with you and have to climb back down and back 
up (if you don't have a ground person or didn't bring a rope and pulley.)

The idea is that the more time you spend on the tower, and the more 
climbing/moving you do, the more fatigued you'll get. That can lead to 
mistakes, injury or even death. 

As I get older I've been looking for ways to reduce the energy expended on the 
tower. I climb with a fall-arrest Y-lanyard, but it takes considerable energy 
to hook and unhook the leads every three steps. For that reason I've been 
looking into installing a safety cable, such as a Tuf-Tug. May be problematic 
with three Tic rings on the tower, which will still have to be climbed over, 
but I believe it will make climbing faster, easier and safer. Expensive? 
Somewhat, but not relative to the cost of the tower, antennas and my life. And 
no, free-climbing is not the solution for me.

I don't want to get in the middle of the full-body harness vs belt debate, but 
will just state that I use a Petzel full-body harness designed for industrial 
uses with the aforementioned fall-arrest Y-lanyard, a Petzel adjustable 
positioning lanyard and a short strap/carabiner attached to the waist ring for 
quickly clipping to the tower before placing the positioning lanyard. Weight 
carried up/down the tower is a big factor. The harness is lightweight compared 
with other industrial harnesses I've tried. I've also reduced the weight of the 
Y-lanyard by using a "Via Ferrata" lanyard with lighter hooks and elastic 
straps. I don't know if anyone climbs without a helmet these days, but if so 
I'd I strongly recommend against it. And it's just as important for every 
member of the ground crew to wear a safety helmet. I can't count the number of 
times I've bumped my head hard on something on the tower or dropped a tool with 
a crew member near the base of the tower (though I always tell them to stay 
away from the base unless absolutely necessary.)

Great video and great discussion.

73, Dick WC1M

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com> 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:59 AM
To: Jim George <n3bb@mindspring.com>; rjairam@gmail.com; James Cain 
<jamesdavidcain@gmail.com>
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Tower safety

Jim, Also with all due respect, these are all very serious issues that have 
nothing to do with body harnesses and free climbing.  Failure analysis deals 
with the direct cause. 

Issue one - don’t be on a tower all day.  Separate out work and know your 
physical limits.  Don’t climb alone.
Issue 2 - Be 100% sure what tower you are climbing.
Issue 3 - Job specific, don’t let a project take down the tower you are on.

The response of hanging up you current belt does not add to the safety of the 
three items listed.

I have no objection to improving safety generically.  I applaud you for doing 
it and think it’s a good idea.  But the action provides no increase in safety 
for the three listed items.

We all want to do feel good things that are in fact good overall.  But if you 
are going to draw specific examples of items to solve.  We need to relate the 
action taken with the item being solved.

Guys - I want a good relation dialog to improve safety.  It helps us all to 
increase safety. But saying - my action will be to buy a better climbing 
harness does not improve safety for virtually all of the discussed items so far.

Ed  N1UR

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim George [mailto:n3bb@mindspring.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:50 AM
To: Edward Sawyer; rjairam@gmail.com; James Cain
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Tower safety

With all due respect, the discussion on climbing w/out the OSHA-approved 
climbing harness (Personal Protection Equipment) and/or taking any sort of risk 
by free climbing or being unattached at times is just foolish. You will be OK 
until you are not. Then you could have an accident. The data are clear.

Over forty years of tower work on my towers and those of friends, I have had 
three occasions where problems occurred. Once, a fellow climber passed out at 
140 feet due to the length of time on the tower and resultant muscle fatigue 
and blood circulation; once when the base of an old sixty foot tower we were 
taking down, unknown to us was rusted and not secure ... both of us were able 
to climb down once the bottom started to rotate on the concrete pad; and once 
when attempted placement of a very heavy mast into the very small opening at 
the thrust bearing caused the gin pole to break and the gin pole and mast then 
bent over the top of the tower ... supported only by the rope. A fall of this 
heavy object could have severed the guy wires on 120 feet of 45G tower.  The 
first of these resulted in a 911 call and EMS emergency people who came, but 
actually complicated the situation because they were not trained in climbing at 
all, and the last one resulted in one of my friends nearly having the end of 
one of his fingers cut off by a sharp edge of the gin pole. We were fortunate 
in all three as we got down without additional injury of the loss of any towers.

For one, I'm hanging up my Klein lineman's "Bodybelt" climbing belt and not 
going up again until I have the proper PPE, and also am taking the pledge of 
slower climbing and the steps recommended by K1IR. The video in its final form 
along with associated written material will become available to all once final 
and it is highly recommended that this be a high-profile program at all 
ham-radio club meetings and other appropriate gatherings.

Jim N3BB

  At 06:46 AM 11/15/2019 -0500, Edward Sawyer wrote:
>I think that issue is that the discussion Jim had did not get to the 
>true root cause analysis in all cases.  HE did speak about temporary 
>guying below the work on  a tower and doing the "off the tower"
>movement of guys which clearly was a root cause of more than one known tower 
>incident.
>
>I believe that a rusted base at the concrete exit point was a root 
>cause and I am not sure I heard that mentioned.
>
>W0AIH's fatality was in no way due to not using the proper safety 
>harness.  There are pictures of him using one.  I am not sure what 
>failed in his arrest system.  But wearing the wrong harness is not what it was.
>
>To be truthful to the root cause analysis process, of which I do a lot 
>if it at work, is there documented fatalities of wearing the lesser 
>harness than what Jim was showing on the video?  If so, what happened, 
>and how would it be mitigated by that ewquipment?
>
>If we REALLY want to improve safety, we should focus on what's killing 
>people.  Not on what isn't killing people.
>
>Some of that occurred on Jim's talk.  Some of it did not.  And some of 
>it is great advice but may have no direct impact on reducing what's 
>killing people.
>
>Ed  N1UR
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf 
>Of rjairam@gmail.com
>Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:19 PM
>To: James Cain
>Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Tower safety
>
>You got lucky.
>
>I prefer not to rely on luck, and it doesn’t take much time to get 
>properly suited up at all.
>
>As for replacing the climbing apparatus, I wouldn’t trust it if it 
>arrested a serious fall. Stress on that kind of apparatus is cumulative 
>so there may be hidden danger.
>
>This is your life you’re gambling with and by all means I won’t 
>tell you how to live it, but I prefer not to roll the dice.
>
>Ria
>N2RJ
>
>On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:22 PM James Cain <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did pretty serious tower work for more than 20 years and quit at age 44.
> > By the time I had got suited up in that equipment in the K1IR video 
> > it would have been too dark to get any work done. And what's this 
> > about "If you fall, (the manufacturer says) to throw away the 
> > climbing
> apparatus"?
> > And what? Buy another climbing apparatus from us?
> >
> > K1TN
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