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On 2018-11-21 2:39 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:
>
> Maintaining a club project "remote" receiver is something I would
> support with some money and some work. It's a lot more worthwhile than
> yet another two meter FM repeater. I don't really care about using it
> for 160 meter DXCC but I would certainly get my money's worth playing
> with it.
This (remote receivers in multiple locations) is specifically what the
rules are meant to prevent.  rankly there is no justification for the
multiple remote receiver operations ... one might as well make an
internet QSO!
73,
   ... Joe, W4TV
On 2018-11-21 2:39 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:
 
Hi Joe,
I live in a small village. Even so, 500 meters isn't going to buy 
anything. If we were overwhelmed by noise we would still be overwhelmed 
by exactly the same noise. So this is going to be yet another thread 
about whose ox is being gored. All those noises don't bother anybody's 
transmitter. So why would we care where the transmitter is within the 
same grid square as the receiver? 
Maintaining a club project "remote" receiver is something I would 
support with some money and some work. It's a lot more worthwhile than 
yet another two meter FM repeater. I don't really care about using it 
for 160 meter DXCC but I would certainly get my money's worth playing 
with it. 
73,
Bill  KU8H
On 11/21/18 2:05 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 
 I think a more practical "Station Location and Boundary, <b)" rule 
would be to have the RX and TX located in either "in the same grid 
square" or "within 100 KM" and of course within the same DXCC
Entity.
 
I think 500 meters is more than enough of a "circle" to contain both
transmit and receive antennas.  If one is making the effort to create
a remote site, it can certainly contain both transmit and receive
antennas.  The idea of placing the transmitter *for an amateur station*
on a salt marsh on the coast and the receive antennas 10 miles distant
and well away from man made noises (to the extent possible) is ludicrous
- it reminds me of the commercial maritime stations of old.
Frankly, the DXCC rules should be changed to limit all operators to
*ONE* location a month unless the operator is physically present at
the station (as defined by the 500 meter circle) to prevent the near
simultaneous use of multiple remote transmitters/receivers in physically
large DXCC entities to "feed" a single DXCC/Challenge/Single Band DXCC
from propagation advantaged locations.
73,
    ... Joe, W4TV
On 2018-11-21 12:37 PM, Lloyd - N9LB wrote:
 I'd like to see the ARRL change part <b) to address the needs of the 
Amateur
Radio Community in light of the recent radical increase in electrical 
noise
from consumer switching power supplies, variable speed motors, LED 
lighting,
solar panels with "optimizers", and all of the other "energy efficient"
wideband RF garbage generators.
I think a more practical "Station Location and Boundary, <b)" rule 
would be
to have the RX and TX located in either "in the same grid square" or 
"within 
100 KM" and of course within the same DXCC Entity.
I also think that building and maintaining a shared Community Low 
Noise RX 
Receiver Site would make a great DX Club project and service.
Let's get this rule updated.   How do we get started?
73
Lloyd - N9LB
 
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