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Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna
From: Bwana Bob <wb2vuf@verizon.net>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:31:53 -0500
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Frank, you need permission to play basketball? The flagpole on the wall will work. Make the flagstaff out of fiberglass, gray PVC conduit, or even a varnished broomstick. Spiral wind wire on it and cover it with shrink sleeving. Run a counterpoise wire down to the ground and around the house foundation. Use a remote antenna tuner. Want a phased array? Set up two flagpoles, one with the US flag and one with the state flag. A Hanstick or Hustler mobile antenna will also work as a flagstaff. The MFJ will work but it will be less efficient because it is base loaded.

Once I put a slinky dipole in the attic as a backup antenna. It worked with a tuner on 80 meters, but it was 10-15 dB down from my outside G5RV. on the other hand, a full size 10 meter dipole in the attic was better than the G5RV because of the inherent feed line losses and mismatch of the G5RV on 10.

How about this approach: Get the biggest, meanest SUV you can afford, like maybe a NATO-surplus Daimler-Benz UNIMOG radio truck. Park it in the driveway. Then put the biggest, meanest mobile antenna(s) on it and run the feedline into the house. See, no antennas on the house. HOA will be happy!

Seriously, I hope that you find a way.

                73,

                Bob WB2VUF

On 11/30/2010 11:04 AM, kf6e@mail.com wrote:
Thanks.  If flagpoles were allowed, I'd have a flagpole antenna.  I spent about 
a half hour talking with my lawyer last night,
and there are no loopholes in VA law that I could use.  The only flags allowed 
in our community are the type that attach
to the exterior wall.  I have an MFJ apartment antenna that I might be able to 
disguise that way.



  I'm going to apply for permission to erect a basketball backstop in the back 
yard.  The screwdriver vertical will just fit inside a six-inch PVC pipe.



73,
Frank
KF6E



-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Brantley<clayton_n4ev@yahoo.com>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2010 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna


This month's QST has a real good article on a flagpole antenna.

Another article a few years back shows how to put a Hustler 5BTV inside

PVC water pipe.



Might want to look at those.  Good luck with the snoops!  Hi.

Might run a bluff citing Dept of Homeland Security, etc.



73's Clayton N4EV









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From: "Rsoifer@aol.com"<Rsoifer@aol.com>

To: tentec@contesting.com

Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 11:09:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna



Another possible alternative, depending on your state law, is a flagpole

vertical.  Here in Arizona, state law allows  homeowners to display the

American flag, military service, POW/MIA, the  state and Arizona Indian nation

flags. HOAs may not prohibit flagpoles, but  may adopt "reasonable rules and

regulations regarding the placement and manner  of display" of flags,

including rules regulating the location and size of  flagpoles (ARS 33-1808).



73 Ray W2RS





In a message dated 11/29/2010 3:17:14 P.M. GMT Standard Time, kf6e@mail.com

writes:



Jim,



Sounds like good advice.





I laid out some  ground radials in the back yard and installed a mount for

my screwdriver  vertical.  I put that up after dark some evenings, and can

work 80 and  160.  Interestingly, the attic dipoles do better on send and

receive for  40 through 10.  The screwdriver vertical does pretty well on 80,

and  reasonably well on 6 and 2.



I have been considering an S9-type  vertical, which, being longer, should

be more efficient than the  screwdriver.  I'm fairly sure I'd never get away

with a beam,  though.  My neighbors complain about just about anything, and

there is  even a committee of the HOA that goes around the entire

development every week  looking for discrepancies.







Thanks for the  encouragement.



73,

Frank

KF6E







-----Original  Message-----

From: Jliving39@aol.com

To: tentec@contesting.com

Sent:  Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:00 am

Subject: [TenTec] OT: Indoor  Antenna





Frank,



Suggest that you get into  the Stealth Mode using  the Redneck



Philosophy of Not Asking  Permission, but Begging Forgiveness if  Caught.

I am



sure



you could rig up some kind of outside antenna.  I  am in a  restricted area



and have a 40meter dipole, a 20, 17, 10 meter  fan  dipole, and a six meter



beam outside.  Keep them low  and the associations  won't bother you.

However,



do not ask  if it is ok.  Simply do  it.



jim,  K4CFA



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