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Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna
From: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:45:56 -0500
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I know of a ham who put up a wood utility pole - heavy duty - and mounted a big honking halogen light on it. He ran the wire from the house to the pole over ground... from the peak of the house to the top of the pole... and turned it on and off a lot when it was new...

but now the lamp is off, and the wire has become his antenna. He is thinking of adding another pole at the other far corner of the lot and making a loop ... after he gets everyone used to thinking it is another light pole.

I really admire his approach.

We are now thinking of have one of the local hams (who works for the power company) stop by another ham's condo and hook up a wire antenna from the peak of his condo unit to a utility pole, letting everyone think it is a power line. Other guys in the condo association have run random wired from their attics (tuned with Icom auto tuners) out into the trees behind the condo units. They just shoot the wires at night and everyone thinks they are utility wires - mostly never noticing them - they just appear one day and the hams just play quiet about them.

So far so good...

Something like this just might work for other guys.

================================= K8JHR  ============================



On 11/30/2010 1:43 PM, Clayton Brantley wrote:
I remember several years ago Al Henderson (SK) K6AJ and I made two 3-500z amps
and Al took one of his verticals to VA.
They were installed and as far as I know, it's still there and working.  Al was
the owner of Signature Antenna Systems in San
Diego, CA.  His antenna is a beast!  Fully sealed in a dry nitrogen atsomphere
and tunable from 2 to 30 mhz remotely.

He sold a bunch of them to the Navy and Air Force.  I do have a 3 or 4 page
booklet describing the antenna.  Also, the 3-500z
amp was the first "no tune" I knew of.  I had one of them working 40 metere from
6.8 to 7.4 mhz!

Happy DXing
Clayton N4EV




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From: "kf6e@mail.com"<kf6e@mail.com>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 11:04:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna

Thanks.  If flagpoles were allowed, I'd have a flagpole antenna.  I spent about
a half hour talking with my lawyer last night,

and there are no loopholes in VA law that I could use.  The only flags allowed
in our community are the type that attach
to the exterior wall.  I have an MFJ apartment antenna that I might be able to
disguise that way.



I'm going to apply for permission to erect a basketball backstop in the back
yard.  The screwdriver vertical will just fit inside a six-inch PVC pipe.



73,
Frank
KF6E



-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Brantley<clayton_n4ev@yahoo.com>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2010 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna


This month's QST has a real good article on a flagpole antenna.

Another article a few years back shows how to put a Hustler 5BTV inside

PVC water pipe.



Might want to look at those.  Good luck with the snoops!  Hi.

Might run a bluff citing Dept of Homeland Security, etc.



73's Clayton N4EV









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From: "Rsoifer@aol.com"<Rsoifer@aol.com>

To: tentec@contesting.com

Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 11:09:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna



Another possible alternative, depending on your state law, is a flagpole

vertical.  Here in Arizona, state law allows  homeowners to display the

American flag, military service, POW/MIA, the  state and Arizona Indian nation

flags. HOAs may not prohibit flagpoles, but  may adopt "reasonable rules and

regulations regarding the placement and manner  of display" of flags,

including rules regulating the location and size of  flagpoles (ARS 33-1808).



73 Ray W2RS





In a message dated 11/29/2010 3:17:14 P.M. GMT Standard Time, kf6e@mail.com

writes:



Jim,



Sounds like good advice.





I laid out some  ground radials in the back yard and installed a mount for

my screwdriver  vertical.  I put that up after dark some evenings, and can

work 80 and  160.  Interestingly, the attic dipoles do better on send and

receive for  40 through 10.  The screwdriver vertical does pretty well on 80,

and  reasonably well on 6 and 2.



I have been considering an S9-type  vertical, which, being longer, should

be more efficient than the  screwdriver.  I'm fairly sure I'd never get away

with a beam,  though.  My neighbors complain about just about anything, and

there is  even a committee of the HOA that goes around the entire

development every week  looking for discrepancies.







Thanks for the  encouragement.



73,

Frank

KF6E







-----Original  Message-----

From: Jliving39@aol.com

To: tentec@contesting.com

Sent:  Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:00 am

Subject: [TenTec] OT: Indoor  Antenna





Frank,



Suggest that you get into  the Stealth Mode using  the Redneck



Philosophy of Not Asking  Permission, but Begging Forgiveness if  Caught.

I am



sure



you could rig up some kind of outside antenna.  I  am in a  restricted area



and have a 40meter dipole, a 20, 17, 10 meter  fan  dipole, and a six meter



beam outside.  Keep them low  and the associations  won't bother you.

However,



do not ask  if it is ok.  Simply do  it.



jim,  K4CFA



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