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Re: [VHFcontesting] Yagis on masts

To: mark@alignedsolutions.com, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Yagis on masts
From: Rhinosix via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Rhinosix <rhinosix@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:31:32 -0500
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We could use the old Channel Master U-110 )(mast through the rotor housing ) 
with a trust bear about now.
Also mount the rotor at ground level and use guy slip rings for the rotating 
mast.  It keeps the center 
of gravity low.
Jerry  w2jcn 
 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Spencer <mark@alignedsolutions.com>
To: VHF Contesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 28, 2016 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Yagis on masts

Hi.  I tend to follow these threads with interest as I'm still looking for 
better ways of setting up my portable / roving station.

Currently I'm using military surplus 4 foot long and slightly under 2" OD 
stackable aluminum mast sections (I believe they were originally intended for 
supporting camouflage netting ?)
Have used up to 6 or 7 sections with a 15 foot long 2M beam on top but 5 
sections in total (including the fixed base) or less is much easier to handle 
by my self and I doubt I will ever run 7 sections again and I have never used 
these in any significant wind.   I wouldn't want to run these in a permanent 
setting and I can't vouch for the structural strength of the surplus mast 
sections.    I like the fact that these mast sections were presumably designed 
to be repeatedly assembled and disassembled which seems to match my use case.   
I've had very few issues with them.

I find it is usually easier and safer just to run one mast per antenna when I 
am roving by myself or with a helper rather than trying to walk up a stack of 
antennas.   Guys help and I usually use them them.   I usually support the 
bottom mast section with a receiver hitch mount on my truck or I use a tripod 
and use spikes to secure the tripod legs to the ground.    (I usually need to 
use a pry bar to remove the spikes.)    I find I can usually manage 4 stacked 
mast sections with an antenna on top, and I can set those 4 sections onto a 
base section and get 20 feet in total.  Having a helper is handy as well.

I typically only set these masts up in out of the way locations far away from 
other people.   I plan to spend 30 minutes per mast / antenna during setup.   
Tear down is usually faster.   

I do find that getting the antennas 20 feet or so up in the air helps with the 
performance of my station on the lower bands.   I figure there is also probably 
some benefit in running separate masts on the lower bands vs stacking 6M, 2M 
and 1.25M antennas on the same mast.   Most of my contacts are in one general 
direction and  I've generally only found rotors to be of use on 432 MHz and up 
(but I suspect my situation may be a bit unusual.)

I've yet to find an inexpensive (ie under $1K) telescoping mast solution that 
I'm happy with and the expensive ones I've been happy with weren't available 
for me to use in my Ham Radio activities.  It is nice to hear from those who 
have run Rohn pop up masts (or similar products) while roving.    I'll have to 
look more closely at those (but I like to be able to break everything down to 
six foot sections or less.)

I've had issues over the years with inexpensive telescopic masts binding during 
tear down.  I still carry hammers, big pairs of water pump pliers, hack saws 
etc to deal with the resulting issues just in case I can't break apart the 
stackable masts I use.   I figure many inexpensive telescopic products may not 
be intended for repeated telescoping but that is just speculation on my part.

73 and be safe

Mark S
VE7AFZ


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