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Re: [VHFcontesting] The meaning of coherence [was: [WSVHF] [VHF] VUAC Se

To: Fred Lass <felasstic@yahoo.com>, Stanford VHF email Remailer <VHF@w6yx.stanford.edu>, Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] The meaning of coherence [was: [WSVHF] [VHF] VUAC Seeks Input]
From: "Rogers, Ron" <RR124640@ncr.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:12:37 -0500
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This part of the VHF contest rules has been suspect and open to debate for at 
least 30 years now and I have been VHF-UHF contesting for over 40 years.

Why not get rid of the debate and/or need for further "definition of terms" by 
simply restricting all operation and point scoring to "the RADIO frequencies" 
within the approved US amateur bands between 50 MHz and 300 GHz.

Most of us veterans have never seen any practical value toward "advancing the 
state of the art" by even allowing light wave transmission and detection for 
the purpose of these contests. 


Ron 
WW8RR

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From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com 
[vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Fred Lass 
[felasstic@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:19 PM
To: Stanford VHF email Remailer; Ev Tupis
Cc: wsvhf@mailman.qth.net; Vhfcontesting Remailer
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] The meaning of coherence [was: [WSVHF] [VHF]       
VUAC Seeks Input]

Hi Ev,

I'll volunteer an answer based on my own observations.

The intent of the rule in the first place was to eliminate QSOs with a 
flashlight and eyes.

The term coherence has been questioned over the use of monochromatic LEDs 
instead of lasers.

All contestants should operate with the same interpretation of the rules.

There is no right or wrong answer and responses that are not focused (pun 
intended) are fine.

73,  Fred  K2TR (Hudson Division VUAC)



--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com>
Subject: [VHFcontesting] The meaning of coherence [was: [WSVHF] [VHF] VUAC 
Seeks Input]
To: "Stanford VHF email Remailer" <VHF@w6yx.stanford.edu>
Cc: wsvhf@mailman.qth.net, "Vhfcontesting Remailer" 
<VHFcontesting@contesting.com>
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:31 AM

As this thread becomes more incoherant (many of us don't belong to all of the 
lists cc'd, so our replies will be missed)...I keyed in on the actual request, 
"to determine if the rule should be modified to make it clearer as to the 
meaning of coherence."

Dear VUCC,
You have the advantage.  We don't know...

... the intent of the rule's presence in the first place.
... the what way(s) in which the meaning of the term being misunderstood
... what problems this causes for you.

As a result, our commentary is "all over the board".  Could you clarify these 
three points?

Ev, W2EV




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