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Re: [VHFcontesting] controversy

To: Jerry Siegmund <jer.sieg@shaw.ca>, kr7o@vhfdx.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] controversy
From: k4gun@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:03:52 +0000
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Why unlimited?  With those power levels, you could enter as Limited Rover. 

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Jerry Siegmund <jer.sieg@shaw.ca> 

> Yes.. Rules are Rules.. and with them come Controversy and also Loop 
> Holes. I acquired the Call Sign VE6JEE that I planned on using 
> /portable in my Jeep. (VE6Jee/p.. kinda cute, eh!) What I was 
> intending to do, was 'Against the Rules'! (for a Contest anyways!) 
> I was planning on using the Call VE6Jee/p, 150W on 6M and 150W on 2M, 
> entering SOLP, and Run from DN49 the first day, then moving South to 
> DN48 Day Two! Two Rare Grids that I am Sure Many would appreciate! 
> Well.. in my plans.. I was 'Breaking Three' Rules.. 
> *1. Portable Stations can only use 10W ! (I was 150W on Both Bands) 
> 2. SOLP Stations cannot Move to another Grid Square ! 
> (I was Roving while signing /p while entering SOLP!) 
> 3. Rovers must Sign /R (VE6Jee/r just doesn't have the same Ring to it, 
> now does it!) 
> *I was told I could enter 'Unlimited Rover' and I would be fine.. but I 
> still had to sign /R.. I could always change my name to Jeer' I guess! 
> Nah.. I will plan All my /p Op's for a Non Contest setting.. Still 
> activate those Grids.. 
> But.. Those are the Rules.. so I will abide by them.. Not saying I 
> agree.. But, Rules are Rules, eh! 
> *Jerry VE6CPP VE6Jee/p* 
> p.s. Can we End this Soon.. My e-mail is getting to be inundated with 
> 'He Cheated, I Lost, Sniff.., etc.. LOL 
> 
> kr7o@vhfdx.com wrote: 
> > The funny thing is, the stations that are dominating now with their legal, 
> > but claimed by some "unethical" techniques will continue to win, whatever 
> > the rules are, because they will plan their operations to take maximum 
> > advantage of the rules and stay one step ahead of their competitors. If 
> > they see that XYZ rover has added 24GHz, they will add 24 and 47GHz. They 
> > will add more power, WSJT, APRS, HAM/IM, CWSkimmer, or add EME capabilities 
> > to make sure they have the maximum potential to make contacts/mults. Did 
> > you know that N6NB/R used to (and probably still does) run KW amps on 
> > 6-432? Have you seen pictures of the antenna setup on N6TEB/R? How many 
> > other rovers will go to that level of station to be competitive? So 
> > excluding the June contest where 6M can make or break the top spot, the top 
> > stations (in any class SOLP, QRP/p, etc) will continue to win, just the 
> > difference in scores between the top rover spots and those that made a 
> > valiant effort will be smaller. 
> > 
> > Intents need to codified, if the desired results are to be enforced. I 
> > mentioned to the Advisory Committee that Limited-Rover was a bad idea and 
> > "intended to" will never hold up. If the desire is to make LR an 
> > entry-level class, add a rule limiting entry in that class to X number of 
> > contests. 
> > 
> > I am not a rover, but have played a rover. I appreciate the efforts that 
> > all rovers make to give us points (a lot of points from some of them). 
> > 
> > My final comments on this never ending thread. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> You will notice that the top in all three have more than double the next 
> >> highest score and that the call signs are the same as those listed in the 
> >> grid circling soapbox. 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee (ex. N7STU) 
> > kr7o@vhfdx.com 
> > 
> > www.vhfdx.com (KR7O/YB2ARO homepages) 
> > 
> > 
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