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Subject: [TowerTalk] HyGain 155CA dampening rope
From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 06:10:35 -0700
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What else that works instead of rope,  is either  .125 SS cable.... or  .09375  
SS cable..
or galvanized winch cable in the same 2 sizes.  Then a SS hose clamp to hold 
the cable
to the outside of the  tip.  IE: cable run down the inside of the entire ele, 
then out the tips, then
folded back on the outside of the tips, then SS hose clamped down. 


You need a bit of weight to kill the vortex shedding.  A buddy across  town had 
his 204BA up
100 ft on 25G.... and when he finally took it down, all 8 x  ele  tips were 
almost ready to pop 
out the ends.   The oem Hy – gain ele clamps did not do the trick.   The winds 
were strong up
there..and the tips and also inboard ele sections  started to migrate outwards. 

I had a 204BA with a wilson 5 el 15M yagi stacked.. plus a 5 el, forget the 
brand name.. 10m yagi,
back in the 70s.   No rope on any of them.   Both the 20 + 15m yagis  would 
vibrate like crazy, in a 
light breeze..but only when turned a bit at an angle to the wind.   But the 
vibration was aprx 6 ft 
out from the boom, not the tips.   They would both vibrate up 3 inches..and 
then down 3 inches,
6 inches in total.  Later, my hb 20m yagi  did the same thing, but nothing ever 
broke. 

My 20 + 15m F12 yagis, plus my buddys  F12 5BA  never had a vibration /  vortex 
shedding issue,
regardless of wind speed, or yagi orientation to the wind.  They just dont 
vibrate... no rope or cable
required.  
The F12 yagis dont have the swedged els.  The 20m eles use a  simple  .375 - .5 
– .625 – .750 – .875 – 1. – 1.125
taper to the eles.   The 1.125 is double walled. For even  greater wind speed 
capability, the 1.00 section can be 
double walled as well. 
Baffles me why hy-gain et all, just dont re-design the ele taper on their 
yagis..and eliminate the swedges. 
You dont require the large OD sections in the middle, like the 1.25 sections on 
the 204BA.   You can run the
various tapers through either of the mech software programs to see the effects 
right away.   Even if you wanted 
to use 1.25 tubing the center,  you still  taper off with the 1.125 – 1.00 – 
.875 etc etc.   Still wont vibrate.

Another fellow across town had his internal rope start to migrate out one ele 
tip...  with several inches of it
flapping in the breeze.   It had cut loose at both ele tips..and was free to 
migrate out either end.   Be careful
with what rope you use, if exposed and folded back on the outside, some of it 
can degrade with UV. 

Jim   VE7RF
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