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Re: Topband: ARRL 160

To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL 160
From: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 11:42:21 -0500
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Pete,

I'm totally with you in terms of using N1MM configured to show dupes on the
bandmap, and thus give me awareness of what other spots are recently on
that frequency and then using my brain to throw out the obvious bust for a
well-known callsign.

Not everyone else's software supports showing two calls on the same
frequency on the bandmap, and not everyone else is even bothering to show
dupes on the bandmap. So they don't have the visibility of "oh that's
obviously a bust for that well known callsign that's a dupe" that you and I
have come to depend upon.

In any event I've resolved to wean myself off spots by NOT using any
spotting assistance at least through July next year. HI HI I also have to
learn how to operate SSB as well.

Tim N3QE

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 10:11 AM Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had 598 QSOs in CQWW CW (10M) and 420 in the ARRL 160 CW, about 85
> percent S&P (assisted), and don't recall a single instance where an
> incorrect spot led me even to think about calling a station who wasn't
> really there.  N1MM's Spectrum Display shows previously-worked stations,
> so it would be glaringly obvious when spots for K3LPL and W3LPL showed
> up on the same frequency. I didn't see it happen.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR,for the N1MM Team
> Check out our web server at
> <https://reversebeacon.net/main.php>.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 12/5/2022 10:55 AM, Ron Spencer via Topband wrote:
> > Re Packet and the contest
> >
> >
> > May not be of interest to everyone.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sat evening around 0010 or so, had been running with a nice rate. Then a
> dupe. And another. And yet another. This continued for around 15 minutes
> until I finally QSY'd to escape.
> >
> >
> >
> > My guess of what happened: someone spotted me but with an incorrect
> call. On all those using packet, a new call popped up. They clicked on it,
> dumped in their call. Typically I work all dupes and,  for the first few
> did but, as the volume grew, I replied with their call, mine and "B4". Most
> went away but a few insisted on a Q.
> >
> >
> >
> > In addition to showing how far our hobby has sunk, isn't it the
> responsibility of the calling station to actually copy the call sign? Many
> of the stations that duped me were very recognizable stations. Again,
> guessing, they were running SO2R, clicked on the spot, called and expected
> a quick Q. NEVER bothering to check accuracy of packet spot. Is it a valid
> contact if you don't copy the actual call sign? Even if the call was
> correct on packet. Or are we moving towards letting the computer do most of
> the work?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sure would be interesting if more contests were like the Stew Perry
> where no spotting assistance is allowed. You have to actually copy the
> information...... Yes, I know. A radical idea.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > N4XD
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