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Re: Topband: Beverage directivity

To: Richard Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage directivity
From: Kenny Silverman <kenny.k2kw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:19:53 -0400
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Hi Karl,  yes CMCs are easy and should be installed regardless.  Even if they 
dont help with 40/80, they will likely help on 160.   Thanks for describing 
your experience. 

Regards , Kenny K2KW 

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Richard Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> When I had beverages up (all 400 feet long), they have moderate directivity 
> on 160, but worked better on 80, and were outstanding on 40 meters, such as 
> long path to Europe.  This would tend to confirm that your 40 and 80 meter 
> wires are killing the 160 meter directivity.  BTW, it is entirely possible 
> that what is doing the damage is the *feedlines* for said antennas, not 
> necessarily the antennas themselves.  Time for K9YC common mode chokes?
> 
> ---
> Rick Karlquist
> N6RK
> 
> 
>> On 2021-07-14 10:10, Kenny Silverman wrote:
>> 
>> Most if not all replies were off line, and thanks to all who wrote in. 2 key 
>> ideas came out:
>> 1) try and reduce the height of the leads at each end of the beverage. But 
>> they are not exceptionally high so I don't think that's it
>> 2) the other is the beverages go under the 80m wire yagi and the 40m 
>> inverted V.  Those antennas are almost certainly killing the beverage 
>> patterns on 40/80 and the only solution is to detune the 40/80 antennas when 
>> not transmitting.   That may be an issue when I finally get around to 
>> porting the Rx  antennas to both of the SO2R radios. Luckily they work on 
>> 160 which is the real need. I will have to see about getting another 80m Rx 
>> antenna for domestic summer contesting
>> 
>> A map of my antennas is now on the bottom of my www.qrz.com/dB/K2KW page. 
>> 
>> Regards , Kenny K2KW 
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Kenny Silverman <kenny.k2kw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Last winter I installed 3 single-wire beverages:
>>> 625' to EU
>>> 625' to Carib/SA
>>> 450' to west coast
>>> 
>>> On 160 the directivity is great, but it's poor on 80/40. Any thoughts on 
>>> why?  I don't have CMC's on them, could that be the issue?
>>> 
>>> Regards , Kenny K2KW
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