I agree. It is disconcerting to reference something we cannot all access.
If possible at least place said info where those that wish to access may
do so.
if possible paraphrase-
The "how to article" in question from QST 1972 where an operator makes a
completely operator free station to make contacts.....bottom line
"somehow it (ham radio) just doesn't seem to be as much fun as it used
to be.......... "
tnx e 73
Renée, K6FSB
On 2019-08-03 11:49 a.m., Martin Kratoska wrote:
Gentlemen,
stop this annoying practice, please! Not all are ARRL members!
Thanks for understanding,
73
Martin, OK1RR
Dne 03. 08. 19 v 20:20 donovanf@starpower.net napsal(a):
Hi Bob
The "how to" article is right here:
http://p1k.arrl.org/pubs_archive/63144
73
Frank
W3LPL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Brennan via Topband" <topband@contesting.com>
To: "Cecil" <chacuff@cableone.net>
Cc: "rich k7zv" <rich_k7zv@gphilltop.com>, "Harald Rester"
<harryrester@gmx.de>, "Alan Swinger" <awswinger@earthlink.net>,
topband@contesting.com
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 10:00:03 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: 160
Gentleman,
I have been using ft8 now for a little over a year now and have been
relatively successful with it.
I also use CW and SSB.
If I can set up my station on ft8 and have it run automatically and
collect new entities.
I would really like to know how to do that.
Perhaps one of you can write an article for QST.
73 Bob ad6hf
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Cecil <chacuff@cableone.net> wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Alan Swinger <awswinger@earthlink.net>
wrote:
. Since FT8 operators can walk away and not participate in QSOs,
and come back after some other activity and see how many new
countries and QSOs that the computer made, this is unlike Digital
modes where operators must remain engaged to make QSOs. Therefore,
seems to me that such Computer-generated contacts should have a
separate category in the current award systems since the operators
are not directly involved in making the QSOs . . . call it
Computer-Aided Digital or something more clever. No argument that
skill is required to set up a station to make FT-8 contacts, but a
different set than what those of us who work DXCC, Challenge, etc
use on CW, RTTY, and SSB, including those towers, expensive
equipment, skills, and years of hard work to get the new ones when
there was NO FT-8 or similar modes!
So, I do not be begrudge the new low signal computer-aided modes,
nor do I cast aspersions on the Ops who enjoy using them . . . even
though I am unlikely to join their ranks, but the Ham community
should not penalize those of us who used non-FT modes to get our
hard earned awards by giving an unfair advantage to a new
technology. We (Ham Radio) need the New Technology, but these modes
are sufficiently different in many ways from the older modes that
justifies a separate category in the award spectrum. Therefore, I
urge the ARRL and the CQ Magazine leadership to establish a Digital
award category that is separate and different from the current DXCC
et al Digital criteria.
Alan Swinger K9MBQ
Charlottesville, VA
-----Original Message-----
From: rich_k7zv@gphilltop.com
Sent: Aug 2, 2019 4:22 PM
To: Harald Rester <harryrester@gmx.de>
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 160
As ham radio changes there will remain at least a niche for CW,
SSB, and
RTTY and it's competitions. FT8 will supplement the bands , not
supplant
it, IMO. Do you think FT8, FT4 and whatever digital modes come
along are
the future or will something else take its place? Who knows...
time and
technology moves on. Maybe it might attract some of the
Millennials to
fill in the void by us Baby Boomers who will all too soon be making.
Let's set a good example for them to follow.
Rich K7ZV
On 2019-08-02 12:42 pm, Harald Rester wrote:
Think about the time *we all *could have been on the air, while
staring
at our screens, typing and reading. I make QSY to the shack - Hpe
CU!
Harry, DH1NBE
Am 02.08.2019 um 21:26 schrieb uy0zg:
I do not propose stopping the FT8.
just compete with each other.
But keep in mind - Arnold will be the first -)):
https://www.alamy.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-2-judgment-day-1991-image66516208.html
---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
W0MU Mike Fatchett писал 2019-08-02 21:52:
Ah so all FT8 users are cheaters. Does that mean that all Russian
hams use way more power than they should and their scores
should not
count either?
The real issue here is change. Ham radio has been in constant
motion
and change since it started and I hope in continues that way well
after we are dead.
So we better stop FT8 and protect VE1ZZ?
Sorry no.
Good day.
On 8/2/2019 12:45 PM, uy0zg wrote:
Hello, Mike
This is how the world works so that humanity always has moral
values.
They must be protected.
Example:
in a few years, 334 VE1ZZ countries will lose their value. His
achievements will be eaten by computer programs and robots ....
It is right ?
Will there be many talents at 160 meters like Jack?
Will not be !
On the contrary - more and more stupidity and envy....
---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
W0MU Mike Fatchett писал 2019-08-02 18:24:
Cheating is cheating. How many people used remote stations,
exceeded
their power limits, etc. Singling out a mode because you are
upset
that it has taken away activity in your preferred mode is not
helpful
to the hobby. Not everyone that use FT8 cheats. Not everyone
that
uses a amp that exceeds their legal limit uses it in that
fashion.
How can you guarantee that everyone on the "Honor Role" was 100
percent honorable or even anyone that got DXCC did it right? You
can't so please stop singling out a mode you don't care for. We
get
it. Move on. It is here. Just like the Reverse beacon, packet
cluster, etc.
We are all hams enjoying many aspects of the hobby. Can't we get
along?
W0MU
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