Andy is right: FT8 should in a separate category.
Especially, when we consider the "dirty little secret": Increasingly, a
number of ops are using fully automated FT8 stations. Most of the time they
are not even in the shack while their automated FT8 stations are making
QSO-s.
Whether we agree with or like all that, or whether we even like FT8, is
totally besides the point. None of that will stop; all the ARRL can do is
put it in a separate category, otherwise the value of DXCC will be
hopelessly diluted.
73,
George,
AA7JV/C6AGU
PS: The value of DXCC goes far beyond the paper certificate and the bragging
rights that comes with it. Today the DXCC program is responsible for a very
great deal of the remaining non-FT8 activity on the MF/HF bands!
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:20:24 +0200
"Andrzej_SP6AEG" <andrzej_aeg@interia.pl> wrote:
In my humble opinion, FT8 should have nothing to do with the competitors of
DXCC Mix, CW, SSB or RTTY. RTTY emission was killed in short wavelengths,
expeditions in the increasing percentage use FT8 as the basic emission and
this is not due to the lack of propagation. I think, the issue of FT8 should
be treated as a separate competition not included in DXCC Mix, CW, SSB and
digital. Then we can talk about competition. Otherwise, it loses the value
of DXCC from before FT8. The discussions on this list about receiving
antennas, the fight against QRM, etc. will end.
Andy
SP6AEG
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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of uy0zg
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:09 PM
To: Peter Sundberg
Cc: daraymond@iowatelecom.net; k1zm@aol.com; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
Hi Topbanders !
Everything is easy to fix.
There should be a strict separation of achievements -
1. They are made only by man.
2. They are made only on the computer.
Delete Mixed Achievement Chart :
http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20190731-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
uto,-12,848
And then FT8 (and many future FTs ....) will lose popularity.
Only children will play with them ...
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Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
Peter Sundberg писал 2019-07-31 20:31:
If we CW operators would all stay on a very tight frequency passband
and call CQ every 15 seconds I bet there would be a lot of interesting
things happening to us also. Especially if we do it 24/7 or at least
every hour that we are not asleep.
However, PC-automation has it's advantages, some are at work while
working DX and others are gardening. Some even sit by the radio/PC and
watch things happen :-)
Bottom line is, we need to activate our transmitters more and not just
listen for others. A perfect example is Bill KH7XS who opens up almost
any seemingly "dead" band to Europe, at any time, just by calling CQ
for a while.
CW is not only great fun as you say Dave, CW is King!
73
Peter SM2CEW
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