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Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise

To: kolson@rcn.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
From: Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 09:56:41 -0400
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
Here’s where the DXCC standings are listed

http://www.arrl.org/dxcc-standings

Can you please show me where 160M CW is?

 73 Mark K3MSB





On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 9:35 AM <kolson@rcn.com> wrote:

> It already has them. Mixed is mixed (all modes including FT8, RTTY, SSB,
> AM, CW, etc), CW is CW, Phone is AM, SSB and FM, Digital is all digital
> machine modes (RTTY, FT8/4, JT65 etc).
>
> So if you are offended that DXCC is being "degraded" by FT8 contacts, just
> look/compare at the CW and SSB mode results only.
>
> Problem solved!
>
> 73, Kevin K3OX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: FZ Bruce <k1fz@twc.com>
> To: 'uy0zg' <uy0zg@mksat.net>
> Cc: 'Andrzej_SP6AEG' <andrzej_aeg@interia.pl>, 'topband@contesting.com' <
> topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 09:04:32 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
>
> Yes the ARRL needs to step up.
>
> Years ago there were foot races, then after the invention of the
> bicycle races between them were common. After the automobile was
> invented they raced. No one seriously thought of foot racing
> (competing) against a bicycle or automobile.
> ARRL DXCC competition bands need sub categories.
> 73
> Bruce-K1FZ
>
>         -----------------------------------------From: "uy0zg"
> To: "Andrzej_SP6AEG"
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Sent: Thursday August 1 2019 8:53:37AM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
>
> Hi Andy Hi All
>
>  Absolutely simple and correct.
>
>  Why don't ARRL leaders understand this?
>
>  It is not possible to equate the results of a robot operator with the
>
>  results of a human operator.
>
>  For FT8, there should only be a separate category for DXCC.
>
>  ---
>  Nick, UY0ZG
>  http://www.topband.in.ua [1]
>
>  Andrzej_SP6AEG писал 2019-08-01 14:20:
>  > In my humble opinion, FT8 should have nothing to do with the
>  > competitors of
>  > DXCC Mix, CW, SSB or RTTY. RTTY emission was killed in short
>  > wavelengths,
>  > expeditions in the increasing percentage use FT8 as the basic
> emission
>  > and
>  > this is not due to the lack of propagation. I think, the issue of
> FT8
>  > should
>  > be treated as a separate competition not included in DXCC Mix, CW,
> SSB
>  > and
>  > digital. Then we can talk about competition. Otherwise, it loses
> the
>  > value
>  > of DXCC from before FT8. The discussions on this list about
> receiving
>  > antennas, the fight against QRM, etc. will end.
>  >
>  > Andy
>  > SP6AEG
>  > ==========================================
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>  > uy0zg
>  > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:09 PM
>  > To: Peter Sundberg
>  > Cc: daraymond@iowatelecom.net; k1zm@aol.com; topband@contesting.com
>  > Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
>  >
>  > Hi Topbanders !
>  >
>  >
>  > Everything is easy to fix.
>  >
>  > There should be a strict separation of achievements -
>  >
>  > 1. They are made only by man.
>  >
>  > 2. They are made only on the computer.
>  >
>  >
>  > Delete Mixed Achievement Chart :
>  >
>  > http://www.topband.in.ua [2]
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Peter Sundberg писал 2019-07-31 20:31:
>  >> If we CW operators would all stay on a very tight frequency
> passband
>  >> and call CQ every 15 seconds I bet there would be a lot of
> interesting
>  >> things happening to us also. Especially if we do it 24/7 or at
> least
>  >> every hour that we are not asleep.
>  >>
>  >> However, PC-automation has it's advantages, some are at work while
>  >> working DX and others are gardening. Some even sit by the radio/PC
> and
>  >> watch things happen :-)
>  >>
>  >> Bottom line is, we need to activate our transmitters more and not
> just
>  >> listen for others. A perfect example is Bill KH7XS who opens up
> almost
>  >> any seemingly "dead" band to Europe, at any time, just by calling
> CQ
>  >> for a while.
>  >>
>  >> CW is not only great fun as you say Dave, CW is King!
>  >>
>  >> 73
>  >> Peter SM2CEW
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> [1] http://www.topband.in.ua
> [2]
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20190731-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20190731-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
>  /> > uto,-12,848
>  >
>  > And then FT8 (and many future FTs ....) will lose popularity.
>  >
>  > Only children will play with them ...
>  >
>  >
>  > ---
>  > Nick, UY0ZG
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