I didn't realize we were talking specifically about 160 meter DXCC listings
(though this IS the Topband reflector, hi hi).
Still, to get the countries that it takes to get high up on the 160 meter DXCC
list will take a serious station and a lot of skill (of a different sort than
CW, but skill nonetheless) even if one is using FT8. I don't really think we
have to worry about dudes operating 160 meters with 100w and a Butternut
vertical using FT8 to show up on 160m DXCC Honor Roll...
73, K3OX
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb@gmail.com>
To: kolson@rcn.com
Cc: FZ Bruce <k1fz@twc.com>, Andrzej_SP6AEG <andrzej_aeg@interia.pl>, uy0zg
<uy0zg@mksat.net>, topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 09:56:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
Here’s where the DXCC standings are listed
http://www.arrl.org/dxcc-standings
Can you please show me where 160M CW is?
73 Mark K3MSB
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 9:35 AM <kolson@rcn.com> wrote:
It already has them. Mixed is mixed (all modes including FT8, RTTY, SSB, AM,
CW, etc), CW is CW, Phone is AM, SSB and FM, Digital is all digital machine
modes (RTTY, FT8/4, JT65 etc).
So if you are offended that DXCC is being "degraded" by FT8 contacts, just
look/compare at the CW and SSB mode results only.
Problem solved!
73, Kevin K3OX
----- Original Message -----
From: FZ Bruce <k1fz@twc.com>
To: 'uy0zg' <uy0zg@mksat.net>
Cc: 'Andrzej_SP6AEG' <andrzej_aeg@interia.pl>, 'topband@contesting.com'
<topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 09:04:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
Yes the ARRL needs to step up.
Years ago there were foot races, then after the invention of the
bicycle races between them were common. After the automobile was
invented they raced. No one seriously thought of foot racing
(competing) against a bicycle or automobile.
ARRL DXCC competition bands need sub categories.
73
Bruce-K1FZ
-----------------------------------------From: "uy0zg"
To: "Andrzej_SP6AEG"
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday August 1 2019 8:53:37AM
Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
Hi Andy Hi All
Absolutely simple and correct.
Why don't ARRL leaders understand this?
It is not possible to equate the results of a robot operator with the
results of a human operator.
For FT8, there should only be a separate category for DXCC.
---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua [1]
Andrzej_SP6AEG писал 2019-08-01 14:20:
> In my humble opinion, FT8 should have nothing to do with the
> competitors of
> DXCC Mix, CW, SSB or RTTY. RTTY emission was killed in short
> wavelengths,
> expeditions in the increasing percentage use FT8 as the basic
emission
> and
> this is not due to the lack of propagation. I think, the issue of
FT8
> should
> be treated as a separate competition not included in DXCC Mix, CW,
SSB
> and
> digital. Then we can talk about competition. Otherwise, it loses
the
> value
> of DXCC from before FT8. The discussions on this list about
receiving
> antennas, the fight against QRM, etc. will end.
>
> Andy
> SP6AEG
> ==========================================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> uy0zg
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:09 PM
> To: Peter Sundberg
> Cc: daraymond@iowatelecom.net; k1zm@aol.com; topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
>
> Hi Topbanders !
>
>
> Everything is easy to fix.
>
> There should be a strict separation of achievements -
>
> 1. They are made only by man.
>
> 2. They are made only on the computer.
>
>
> Delete Mixed Achievement Chart :
>
> http://www.topband.in.ua [2]
>
>
>
>
> Peter Sundberg писал 2019-07-31 20:31:
>> If we CW operators would all stay on a very tight frequency
passband
>> and call CQ every 15 seconds I bet there would be a lot of
interesting
>> things happening to us also. Especially if we do it 24/7 or at
least
>> every hour that we are not asleep.
>>
>> However, PC-automation has it's advantages, some are at work while
>> working DX and others are gardening. Some even sit by the radio/PC
and
>> watch things happen :-)
>>
>> Bottom line is, we need to activate our transmitters more and not
just
>> listen for others. A perfect example is Bill KH7XS who opens up
almost
>> any seemingly "dead" band to Europe, at any time, just by calling
CQ
>> for a while.
>>
>> CW is not only great fun as you say Dave, CW is King!
>>
>> 73
>> Peter SM2CEW
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