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Re: Topband: 80m rotatable dipole load coil questions

To: Bob K6UJ <k6uj@pacbell.net>, "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: 80m rotatable dipole load coil questions
From: AB2E Darrell <ab2e@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:14:35 +0000
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Ray,

There is a lot of interesting info (possibly useful to you) at VE6WZ's website 
http://www.qsl.net/ve6wz/intro.htm

In his case, he designed a short boom 2 el 80m yagi, and designed his own 
coils. He used the Brian Beezley design program.


73 and best of luck with your antenna project,

Darrell AB2E


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From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Bob K6UJ 
<k6uj@pacbell.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:16 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 80m rotatable dipole load coil questions

Ray,

I made a 40M rotary dipole and followed Force 12's Tornado loading coil
design.  They issued a study
on the evolution of their loading coils from Tom Schiller's original
design. They first went to  a smaller diameter (less efficient) coil and
later back to a larger diameter final version they call their Tornado
coil.  It is interesting
to note that with their new Tornado coil they went back to the larger
diameter coil as Tom Schiller used.
The Tornado design coils are now used on all their coil loaded antennas.
  I thought this might be interesting to you on designing the 80M coils.

http://www.force12inc.com/content/Application%20Note%20-%2040m%20Delta%20Coils%20Overview%20DRAFT%202.pdf
APPLICATION NOTE - Force 12 / InnovAntennas 
Superstore<http://www.force12inc.com/content/Application%20Note%20-%2040m%20Delta%20Coils%20Overview%20DRAFT%202.pdf>
www.force12inc.com
APPLICATION NOTE 40 Meter Delta Coil Overview Including Tip Dimensions For 
Using 3rd Generation 'Tornado Delta' Coils Introduced In 2014




Bob
K6UJ







On 10/10/16 9:03 PM, Ray Benny wrote:
> I am building a 90 ft, 80m rotatable dipole. I am near the point of 
> fabricating the inductors/coils that will go about 23 ft out on the element. 
> I am guying the element just before the inductor. I have several questions:
> 1. Does the size of the gap between the center element and element tip make 
> much difference? Is one inch enough, or should it be almost the same size as 
> the coil length?
> 2. Is there advantage of winding the coils of copper vs. aluminum? Is it 
> worth silver plating the copper windings? I'm most likely planning to use 
> 1/4" tubing either way.
> 3. Once I figure out the total length of the element, a friend is going to 
> run EZNEC and tell me the inductor valve I need. I will use a calculator to 
> compute the physical dimensions of the coils. What is the advantage of 
> building the coils on either 3 inch vs. a 4 inch form?
> Is there anything else to consider in the construction of this antenna?
> Tnx for your thoughts,
> Ray,N6VRLocated in central AZ
>
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