Why are we centered on remote operations dirtying up the DXCC program?
DXCC is far from clean now and from the limited amount of reading
available people have been scamming DXCC long before I was licensed in 1978.
The ARRL recognizes that this is a new and upcoming technology and the
more and more people will be using it.
The DXCC program is based on YOUR moral and ethical fiber not to cheat.
We through some card checking in there and catch a few problems here and
there.
I was doing an audit of my award and found and number of typos that gave
me credit for countries I never worked on certain bands. I alerted the
DXCC desk and they fixed them. How many other people are going to take
the time to do what I did and then willingly remove a confirmation. I
would hope most, but many don't care.
We know people have been using excessive and illegal power for years and
years.
People have submitted QSL cards that have been altered or submitted
cards that for countries they have never worked.
We know people said they want to places they did not. How many did we
catch vs how many that were not. How many of you know things have never
been reported.
Remote receivers. Remote Xmitters.
The DXCC award that you earn is yours. How you get there is up to you
and your integrity, morals, ethics, etc. The cheating has been going on
for years and years and years. Remote is just another avenue for a
cheater to use.
The issuing of a DXCC award to someone else has no bearing on your
award. Nothing changed. You didn't drop a spot or gain a spot. Your
standing is based on the number of countries you have worked and claimed.
If the ARRL did not make money selling plaques and certificates and LOTW
credits do you really think they would be pushing it? The Centennial
QSO party was marketing genius. They sold tons of LOTW credits and
awards. They are not making any money from my Life Membership that I
paid for 30 years ago.
Ham radio is centered around the vast majority of people doing it right
and they do. For the most part we are a self policing group.
Just like packet, remote radio is here, has been here for a while and it
is never going away. Remote radio is not going affect your awards and
you will probably never know if and when you work remote stations.
The only problems I see are perceived problems that might happen or that
have been happening for years that most just never knew about. Running
remote from W7 and not telling people that your Xmitter is in Virginia
is just one bad apple. He should do what is right. How many slims have
we all worked? Plenty. What was the result of that? Go work the
station again.
Mike W0MU
On 2/27/2015 7:49 AM, Tom W8JI wrote:
thrown out a hotel upper storey window. Question: can I link myself
via the internet to some remote "...rent-a-station" in, say, nearby
Japan, and use that station to QSO them, all the while using my
callsign of VE3CUI...?
Like I said earlier, it's an ignorant question, from an ignorant
Ham---but I would like to know the answer, just the same...!
Many thanks, &
Eddy,
It is always good to figure out how the something we complained about
actually works, and what the impact is. I see you still cling to the
"rental myth" that is used to stir people up.
The fact is, there are many dozens, if not hundreds, of completely
free unmonitored stations on line right now.
My opinion is, if someone wanted to do what you describe, they would
likely do it through one of the many free open access small stations
all over the world, of which there are probably hundreds. They would
be invisible and unrecorded.
It seems illogical to me that someone would join a club or group,
become identified, and pay a deposit they lose if caught breaking
terms, and a fee for a monitored and logged system when they can do it
free and without logging.
I'm not sure how that could be controlled, because anyone who can
download software and has the right equipment can connect.
This entire topic seems backwards to me, because the most vocal
ranters appear to be the very people who don't understand the system,
and who have not thought through the impact and how to solve or reduce
problems.
For example, the ARRL is being blamed for profiting from DXCC, but
they probably have no idea if DXCC is a net loss or net profit for the
ARRL. I personally do not think it is a fund raiser for them, but
that's my guess. I would not publically rant about it one way or
another without research.
We all know, factually, many years ago DXCC became a matter of the
person and not the station or station location (other than being
within a country). Some people would like to see this to go back to
the station or at least worked within reasonable bounds of distance (I
am one of them). Unlike some, I don't think this is an ethical thing.
I think a rule is a rule, and if we don't like the rule we carefully
and thoughtfully change the rule. (I've never even applied for DXCC,
but I do enjoy working countries for my own satisfaction. I do have
RCC, but after the strange looks at show and tell in eighth grade I
have kept that hidden.)
After thinking about this for a few years, I think there should be a
requirement that no radio transmitter be openly accessible to the
general public. To me, that is no different than having a running
unmonitored transmitter on a table in a public shopping mall. I think
anyone offering a transmitter (or receiver in real time, without
induced latency) to the general population without reasonably secure
user control is setting the world up for problems.
The really odd thing about this thread is some people dislike
controlled systems and people who have or use controlled systems, but
they have no comment on what amounts to hundreds of radios openly
accessible with no controls, restrictions, and no monitoring. They
have no problem with someone driving to a station that isn't theirs
and counting the country, but they have a problem if it is via a link.
W6YY used a remote link in 160 contests way back around 1963. John was
my first or second California contact on 160. This has been going on
quite a while.
73 Tom
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