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Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

To: "'W0MU Mike Fatchett'" <w0mu@w0mu.com>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??
From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:34:36 -0600
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Response below ***

-----Original Message-----

Why does publishing the results change anything.  Is there a prize for 
being Honor Roll number 1?

*** yes

How do you account for all the other dirty contacts on the DXCC rolls?  
Those are just ignored and only remote contacts are the problem?

*** Read my post again: The cheaters, commercial RHR users, ethical types
are all grouped together.  You mention 'dirty contacts' ... care to explain?

Once again they publish where you stand.  If guess if you need to 
compare yourself to other people on the list so be it.  I have been 
working on and off for DXCC honor roll since 1978.  It is not a race for 
me.  Obtaining Honor Role takes time, skill and patience.  The more time 
people have to spend in front of their radio the more dx they work.

*** Fine, not a race for you but a race for others.

The guy that has 10 more countries than me is not necessarily any better 
at dxing than I am.  He might just have been on the radio more and was 
in an area that had better propagation.

You are trying to find reasons to discredit remote operations by filling 
holes in a DXCC program that is far from perfect.

*** Let me help out here.  I have gone on record in past postings that I
personally do NOT have a problem with remote operations in the vicinity of
their home station.  The problem is people using remotes in different
countries and on different sides of the continent to inflate their
standings.

Doug

Mike W0MU

On 2/27/2015 11:02 AM, Doug Renwick wrote:
> Yes the DXCC award you have earned is yours.
> But the problem is the publishing of the standings.  The cheaters,
> commercial RHR users, ethical types are all grouped together.  If the
> standings were not published, highlighted, promoted then it would be a
> personal award.  But when ALL are grouped together in the standings by
call
> sign and totals, then it becomes an issue.
>
> No, the ARRL recognizes they can't/don't want to control the cheaters and
so
> have abdicated their responsibility in setting ethical standards.
>
> Doug


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