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Re: Topband: Modeling a BOG

To: "'Mike Waters'" <mikewate@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Modeling a BOG
From: "James Wolf" <jbwolf@comcast.net>
Reply-to: jbwolf@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:50:12 -0500
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Mike,

 

The reason the beverage wire in the model is 2 ft. below the surface is to have 
it away from the ground somewhat and have a nice segment length from the wire 
to ground on each end.  The model shows only about 2 dB difference in gain and 
no pattern difference between the wire 1” below ground and 2ft., which I 
suspect could be correct for 160 meter frequencies.  Of course, the pattern is 
the problem.

 

In practice, I would lay it on the ground and after a few years, it would be 
just below the surface.  

 

Hmmm.  BBG – Beverage Below Ground.

 

Jim – KR9U

 

From: Mike Waters [mailto:mikewate@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:26 PM
To: jbwolf@comcast.net
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Modeling a BOG

 

I have never heard of anyone burying a BOG. The radials could be buried an inch 
or so, but a BOG should lay on the ground or slightly above. 2 ft. is two feet 
too deep.

About 200' is a common length for a BOG on 160.

73, Mike

www.w0btu.com

 

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 6:51 PM, James Wolf <jbwolf@comcast.net> wrote:

I am trying to model a BOG (Beverage On or in the Ground). ... As soon as I 
drop the antenna below ground level, approx. 2 ft. without errors,  I lose all 
indication of directivity except for a few dB.   I have tried different lengths 
from 200 ft. to 800 ft.

 

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