Wayne,
true but we pretend that we live in a perfect world. =) Ham Radio is one of the
easiest ways to feel acomplished. But that´s another topic and rather of
psychological and social field. =)
Seriousely now, then if we know that it is a mostly a gypsie circus (no
disrespect to gypsies - I love you, guys, ever since you taught me the
fortune-telling), why do we still bother?
73 Alex
HC2AO
P.S. I tried on several ocasions to be heard by some contests organizers about
severe violations of the rules - yet, it was the voice of the crier in desert.
(just in case I have a pesonal lake to jump into )) )
Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:46:17 -0700 от "Wayne" <n7ng@bresnan.net>:
>Alex,
>
>Rules that cannot be enforced are not rules. Further they make the sponsor
>look foolish. Do you really believe that rules are always followed? (If you
>do, I have a bridge you might be interested in...)
>
>Wayne, N7NG/6
>
>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "ALEXEY OGORODOV" <ua4wae@mail.ru>
>>To: <topband@contesting.com>
>>Cc:
>>Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:37:21 +0300
>>Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule
>>
>>
>>Brethren,
>>
>>why are there rules? In our case they were cset in order to create a
>>reasonable fair playground limits for the MAJORITY of participants. The
>>majority still falls into the conditions described in the rules.
>>
>>To the remote RX/TX site owner - fellows, why don't you ask the rule-makers
>>to create a special entry for you. That sounds more logical.
>>
>>With all due respect to all parties involved.
>>
>>73 Alex
>>HC2AO
>>
>>
>>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:30:02 -0500 от Chester Latawiec :
>>>
>>>
>>>Frank. I'm with you 100%.
>>>I have accomplished the same as you. Set up a remote listening site in a
>>friends back yard (he has several acres) specifically for 160M.I found this
>>to be a much cheaper alternative to buying a farm and leaving my spouse
>>behind (she is not leaving our present domicile). My remote station build
>>has been the most rewarding both technically and personally. I have had to
>>learn stuff I never had any intention of learning in the first place. But it
>>did get me DXCC on 160M.
>>>So why should you and I be punished because we do not want to spend
>>dollars buying a farm and installing yet another station with towers,
>>antennas, hardline, ....
>>>CQ and Stew Perry allow remote receive sites at least, within a 60 mile
>>or so radius. My site is 15 miles away. The first time I worked a JA, I
>>was like a 16 year old kid. And when I worked Amsterdam Is. last year on
>>160, I believed I had achieved my best accomplishment in this marvelous hobby
>>of ours over a 46 year time span.
>>>Maybe others out there will write ARRL and ask for consideration of rule
>>change.For this weekend, it's back to my 10M vertical and mag loop for
>>receive. There's just no comparison.
>>>73 Chet VE3CFK
>>>
>>>
>>>> Message: 12
>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:50:57 -0330
>>>> From: Frank Davis < fdavis@nfld.net >
>>>> To: topband@contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule
>>>> Message-ID: < 65FE178B-307C-43F6-B425-25AB95B31520@nfld.net >
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> The contest rules dictate that e remote receiver controlled over the
>>internet is not permitted in the CQWW160 contest.
>>>>
>>>> I have deployed a remote SDR at a seaside location within my home
>>grid square GN37. I did this specifically to improve my listening capability
>>for 160M. The setup and refinement of this remote SDR has taken two years of
>>learning about IP networking; remote access via PC issues; how to switch
>>antennas remotely; and how to restart the system when it stops working and to
>>avoid driving to the site during winter. Its been a great learning
>>experience.
>>>>
>>>> My home QTH in the city is not a good lowband receiving site due to
>>the local electrical and RF noise that obilterates all but the strongest
>>signals on 160 and 80M. I live on a standard suburban lot with a tower in
>>close proximity to my K9AY system ....even though I have the K9AY feedline
>>well choked and by passed the noise it picks up overrides the weak signals.
>>For my remote rx system in the same grid square as my home is really the only
>>way for me to hear anything during the event. Over the past number of years
>>with the proliferation of plasma TV's; wifi routers; cheap swiching PS wall
>>warts etc. the noise level in the local area has grown to be extreme.
>>>>
>>>> At the remote SDR site, that I am fortunate enough to own, the
>>environment is very quiet ...the ocean is 100ft away from my antenna, I can
>>almost hear a pindrop in Eu!. During contest days when the band is good I
>>can hear Eu signals during the early afternoon on the SDR and a Pixel mag
>>loop....
>>>>
>>>> I intend to play in the 160m contest, which is one of my favorite
>>outings, but cannot submit a log other then for checking purposes.
>>>> Its time for the contest managers to review the rules pertaining to
>>cases such as mine which I am sure is the case for many of you. What is
>>wrong with improving my station and to be able to use in this manner?. It is
>>located within my home grid square.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I can setup a full rx/tx site there with tx antenna and operate
>>remotely - that is OK it appears - but that adds a whole new level of
>>complexity and cost that I have avoided this far.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe if enough of us push for it we can have the rules modified to
>>permit remote receivers within the same grid square as the home station.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Frank VO1HP
>>>>
>>>>
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