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Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

To: "John Langdon" <jlangdon@outer.net>, "'Bruce'" <k1fz@myfairpoint.net>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Reply-to: Tom W8JI <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:09:53 -0500
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It also doesn't seem to matter if the antennas in the stack have their
elements insulated from the boom or bonded to it, the top antenna always has
+20 dB or more noise.

73 John N5CQ


That agrees with dozens of other reliable A-B reports by other people. Everyone who has side-by-side compared, or only changed if the elements are insulated or grounded and nothing else, reports the same.

It also agrees with common sense.

The noise is caused by the voltage gradient ***between*** the element (or wire) and the air and what is in the air around the element. It's quite obvious we would want the element to approach the potential of the surrounding air to reduce noise, but the impedance of the air around the element is so high and the voltage is so high insulation (which is generally wet anyway during bad weather) does not make any significant difference.

People tend to think backwards. They think the element charges and that charge makes noise. What really happens is the element or object is at earth potential, and the sky and air around the object is at another grossly different potential.

The only noise caused by an element charging is a "pop" or arc as the element moves closer to air potential, until the voltage is high enough to break down some insulation path to earth. This is a huge problem with T network antenna tuners that feed big antennas without a ground leak path. The antenna trickle charges the output capacitor (with microamperes of current) until the cap flashes over. This sudden rings the tank with high voltage, and that blows the diodes in the directional coupler detector.

We certainly do not want things to charge to the point something flashes over and is damaged, but a ground leak does not reduce p-static (corona) noise. A ground leak does not reduce the chance of a lightning strike, either. Neither do those tower whiskers (NASA has extensively tested that).

73 Tom


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