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Subject: [SECC] Fw: Important changes to ARRL Club rules
From: w4nti@mindspring.com (Dan/W4NTI)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:11:34 -0600
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Good points Greg...OK you convinced me  I'll get the other station =
running, sucker a local into coming out, and see what I can do.

Dan/W4NTI

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: greg and leann richard=20
  To: Dan/W4NTI ; Larry Crim ; K9AY ; K4SB ; secc@contesting.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [SECC] Fw: Important changes to ARRL Club rules


  Dan,

  If the SECC Club score is going to grow, its going to come from the =
following categories:

  1)  New members.   We have to continuously and aggressively seek out =
new contest stations in GA, AL, SC, TN that are within the defined =
radius of the SECC. These are the guys who show up in the contest logs =
or in the box score without a club affiliation.

  2.)  Guys in the club who have "little contest scores"  developing =
into guys who have "a little bit bigger contest score"  thru additional =
practice, indoor station upgrades, outdoor station upgrades, contest =
know how, etc.  The guys who put up the big numbers are not going to =
improve their score by 50 to 100% but those percentages are possible for =
someone in a "small station"

  3.)  Guys with big scores that "keep on keeping on"

  Just my ramblings but I'd like to see the SECC stay the way it =
is...besides, I got a 10% raise at work when I told them I was the VP of =
the SECC.  If the SECC goes away, I'd have to give that back..


  Greg K4NO


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Dan/W4NTI=20
    To: Larry Crim ; K9AY ; K4SB ; secc@contesting.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:10 PM
    Subject: Re: [SECC] Fw: Important changes to ARRL Club rules


    I don't know what the exact Alabama number is.  I joined SECC to =
help out with my little contest scores.  If you guys don't want me I can =
leave.  Not trying to be a smart alec here but I'm no big gun contester, =
so my loss wont be missed much.

    Dan/W4NTI

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Larry Crim=20
      To: K9AY ; K4SB ; secc@contesting.com=20
      Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:55 PM
      Subject: Re: [SECC] Fw: Important changes to ARRL Club rules


      > Anyone else care to comment?

      I think this change was written for the benefit of California
      Texas and Florida.  Not us.  Or YCCC or FRC.

      I vote stay the way we are.

      Of course, that's a view from an Alabama guy who would
      need to form an Alabama Contest Club.  Let's see...
      do we EVEN have 10 contesters in my section?

      -Larry K4AB



        ----- Original Message -----
        From: K9AY
        Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 13:25
        To: K4SB; secc@contesting.com
        Subject: Re: [SECC] Fw: Important changes to ARRL Club rules

        Ed

        Note that a club cannot do both175-mile and ARRL section.

        I am in favor of keeping the 175-mile definition.  We would lose =
more
        good members from AL, SC and NC than we would gain from only
        including the Georgia section.

        Anyone else care to comment?

        73, Gary
        K9AY
        ---------------------
        > This is great news! Not only will we finally! be able to pick =
up K4WI,
        > but N4PN and I'm sure a host of others.
        >
        > Since we seem to be able to do business via the internet, I =
move that we
        > immediately define ourselves as an ARRL section.
        >
        > 73
        > Ed
        >
        > K9AY wrote:
        > clubs now may define their club service area either
        > as a 175-mile radius circle or as an entire ARRL section.



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Good points Greg...OK you convinced me&nbsp; =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dan/W4NTI</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dk4no@home.com href=3D"mailto:k4no@home.com";>greg and leann =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  href=3D"mailto:w4nti@mindspring.com";>Dan/W4NTI</A> ; <A =
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  href=3D"mailto:k4ab@msn.com";>Larry Crim</A> ; <A title=3Dk9ay@k9ay.com =

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  href=3D"mailto:k4sb@mindspring.com";>K4SB</A> ; <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 30, =
2002 10:16=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SECC] Fw: =
Important changes=20
  to ARRL Club rules</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dan,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>If the SECC Club score is going to grow, its =
going to=20
  come from&nbsp;the following categories:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>1)&nbsp; New members.&nbsp;&nbsp; We&nbsp;have =

  to&nbsp;continuously and aggressively seek out new contest stations in =
GA, AL,=20
  SC, TN that are within the defined radius of the =
SECC.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT=20
  face=3DArial>These are the guys who show up in the contest logs or in =
the box=20
  score without a club affiliation.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>2.)&nbsp; Guys in the club who have "little =
contest=20
  scores"&nbsp; developing into guys who have "a little bit bigger =
contest=20
  score"&nbsp; thru additional practice, indoor station upgrades, =
outdoor=20
  station upgrades, contest know how, etc.&nbsp; The guys who put up the =
big=20
  numbers are not going to improve their score&nbsp;by 50 to 100% but =
those=20
  percentages are possible for someone in a "small station"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>3.)&nbsp; Guys with big scores that "keep on =
keeping=20
  on"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Just my ramblings but I'd like to see the SECC =
stay the=20
  way it is...besides, I got a 10% raise at work when I told them I was =
the VP=20
  of the SECC.&nbsp; If the SECC goes away, I'd have to give that=20
  back..</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Greg K4NO</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dw4nti@mindspring.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:w4nti@mindspring.com";>Dan/W4NTI</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dk4ab@msn.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:k4ab@msn.com";>Larry Crim</A> ; <A =
title=3Dk9ay@k9ay.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:k9ay@k9ay.com";>K9AY</A> ; <A =
title=3Dk4sb@mindspring.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:k4sb@mindspring.com";>K4SB</A> ; <A =
title=3Dsecc@contesting.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:secc@contesting.com";>secc@contesting.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 30, =
2002 5:10=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SECC] Fw: =
Important=20
    changes to ARRL Club rules</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I don't know what the exact Alabama number =
is.&nbsp; I=20
    joined SECC to help out with my little contest scores.&nbsp; If you =
guys=20
    don't want me I can leave.&nbsp; Not trying to be a smart alec here =
but I'm=20
    no big gun contester, so my loss wont be missed much.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dan/W4NTI</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <A title=3Dk4ab@msn.com href=3D"mailto:k4ab@msn.com";>Larry =
Crim</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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      href=3D"mailto:k9ay@k9ay.com";>K9AY</A> ; <A =
title=3Dk4sb@mindspring.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:k4sb@mindspring.com";>K4SB</A> ; <A =
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January =
30, 2002=20
      4:55 PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SECC] Fw: =
Important=20
      changes to ARRL Club rules</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>&gt;&nbsp;Anyone else care to comment?</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>I think this change was written for the benefit of =
California</DIV>
      <DIV>Texas and Florida.&nbsp; Not us.&nbsp; Or YCCC or FRC.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>I vote stay the way we are.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Of course, that's a view from an Alabama guy who would</DIV>
      <DIV>need to form an Alabama Contest Club.&nbsp; Let's =
see...</DIV>
      <DIV>do we EVEN have 10 contesters in my section?</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>-Larry K4AB<BR><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        K9AY</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January =
30, 2002=20
        13:25</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> K4SB; <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:secc@contesting.com";>secc@contesting.com</A></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SECC] Fw: =
Important=20
        changes to ARRL Club rules</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Ed<BR><BR>Note that a club cannot do =
both175-mile and=20
        ARRL section.<BR><BR>I am in favor of keeping the 175-mile=20
        definition.&nbsp; We would lose more<BR>good members from AL, SC =
and NC=20
        than we would gain from only<BR>including the Georgia=20
        section.<BR><BR>Anyone else care to comment?<BR><BR>73,=20
        Gary<BR>K9AY<BR>---------------------<BR>&gt; This is great =
news! Not=20
        only will we finally! be able to pick up K4WI,<BR>&gt; but N4PN =
and I'm=20
        sure a host of others.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Since we seem to be able =
to do=20
        business via the internet, I move that we<BR>&gt; immediately =
define=20
        ourselves as an ARRL section.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 73<BR>&gt;=20
        Ed<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; K9AY wrote:<BR>&gt; clubs now may define =
their club=20
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entire=20
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