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Re: [RTTY] Re: Noise with MMTTY

To: wrt@dslextreme.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Re: Noise with MMTTY
From: llindblom@juno.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 19:07:12 GMT
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As some one who over the past 40+ years has done a lot of all nighters on 80 
and 160 during SSB contests, I learned I could copy signals better with the 
widest filters in the rig. Eventually I started doing that on CW and it worked 
well.  

During BARTG I decide to try and take this one step further. For the weakest of 
signals it seemed that going to the wide filters in my IC-775 did the trick and 
let MMTTY decode cleaner.  Or, did the signal peak when I went wide and dive 
when I went back to a narrower setting? 

73 W0ETC


-- Bill Turner <wrt@dslextreme.com> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:29:59 -0600, Charles Morrison wrote:

>I can't speak to this issue directly.  However, on the human factors side
>people doing signal detection research stumbled across something that is
>counter intuitive.  Is it easier to copy a weak CW signal on a quiet or
>noisy band?
>Many people will say it is easiest to copy CW on a quiet band.  However,
>under controlled testing people did a better job of copying a weak CW signal
>in noise than when there was no noise.  A demonstration of this on NPR
>nearly blew me away.  The played 10 seconds of what to the human ear sounded
>like silence but actually contained a very low level CW signal.  When noise
>was added in the CW signal was very obvious.  Of course too much noise mask
>the signal entirely.
>I doubt electronic circuits/software work the same as the human brain.  But,
>the next time you operate the original digital mode don't cuss any noise for
>it might be help your brain detect a signal that it otherwise might not
>process.

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I've noticed a similar effect on CW myself.  Often I can copy CW better
with a wide filter instead of a narrow one, even though the apparent
noise is more.  Strange.

--
Bill, W6WRT
QSLs via LoTW

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